Thank you Jim, It has only happened a couple of times in the mail & i just plant them anyway. but have never noticed the result. I have also seen the two roots occasionally & even had one with 3 roots, it was quite an interesting tangle & it produced 3 leaves, but the weakest one wilted away quite quickly & the other two continued to grow : ) Steven Esk Queensland Australia On Tue, Feb 7, 2012 at 5:36 AM, J.E. Shields <jshields@indy.net> wrote: Mostly, once the first root coming out of a Crinum seed is broken, that's the end for that seed. Very rarely, I've seen crinum seeds with two shoots, and I believe (but have not dissected to see) that this is because there were two embryos in that seed. Jim Shields