Hans, instead of being so "incredibly rude" to me, & calling me "a faik", for sharing my experience with PBS members. Perhaps you should learn from someones experience instead of voicing your learned opinions ! You are however correct, Amaryllids do contain Amaryllidacean Alkaloids, which are highly toxic to almost all species. However my goats have eaten my whole collection 3 times & browsed over it several other times, when fences have broken by falling branches etc. They have shown no ill effects, except in one case, i could see a notable effect with one large goat "Samson" he is the guts of the group & is likely to have eaten a much larger percentage, he was stumbling & uneasy on his feet for days & he appeared to have sever muscle spasms & could not control his neck properly, his pupils were extremely dilated for a couple of days especially on one side & i thought he would surly die, Vet treatment was with high levels of vitamin B12 & lock up with clean food, he took a few days to recover & is still with the remaining herd of 7 animals, but has shown a reduction in general health. I had 10 goats at the time & they ate about 30 square meters of Ameryllids ! In addition, Lantana is highly toxic to all mammals too, i have about 20 acres of this highly invasive feral species, which is a constant battle to control, it usually makes mammals photosensitive & eventually kills even cows in some cases, but often in rainy weather when the toxin is at high levels, they loose pacthes of their hair & become very sick. Boss Indicus species of cattle are far more tolerant. The goats however, have been eating lantana now for about 12 years & have now learnt not to eat the leaves most of the time, rather the consume extremely large numbers of flower heads & so help me reduce the plants ability to repopulate to a large extent. Not that i recommend this to anyone, its just that i have no way of controlling it ! The seeds do not pass through the goat as they grind everything to a fine pellet. Goats "Especially Cashmeres" also eat a large number of highly poisonous weeds & plants, including Eucalyptus leaves which are packed with poisonous puranic acid. They have an amassing ability to govern their eating habits when plants are in a highly toxic stage throughout different seasons. A well recorded fact.... I would hope some members would be fascinated by my experience, & possibly even learn from it, rather than abusing me & being educated by Deer & Gophers ! Kind reguards..... A very angry Steven ! Esk Queensland Australia On Mon, Jan 30, 2012 at 11:18 AM, Hans-Werner Hammen <firstname.lastname@example.org>wrote: A faik it is impossible that any Mammal will CONSUME plant matter from Amaryllids.These contain poisonous Amaryllidacean Alkaloids. Amaryllids are "Deer And Gopher Proof" > Date: Mon, 30 Jan 2012 01:59:58 -0800 > From: email@example.com > To: firstname.lastname@example.org > Subject: [pbs] Amarcrinum verses the goats !