Jim, I grew the pressliana Ellen offered, aurea, pulchella, and psitacina and all were very short lived perennials in Kansas, even shorter here. The heat did them in. I found them to attempt to go dormant in the summer put up fall growth, die back over the winter and put up a pathetic spring display. The last was the only one that persisted more than 2 years. Aaron E Tennessee --- On Sat, 6/2/12, James Waddick <email@example.com> wrote: From: James Waddick <firstname.lastname@example.org> Dear Jane, Ellen etc.... The first 50 Google hits had NO plants for sale of this weedy easy to grow species. Why is this? I could moan about the demise of Seneca Hill (which I am doing quietly), or complain about the general pitiful poor state of nursery offerings.