Just to correct Mr Nick's interpretation of my geographical experience in growing Nerine bowdenii: I have only been 'oop north', as he puts it, for 2 months. Previously I was at Colesbourne in the Cotswolds, a notoriously cold area, and my long term cultivation of N. bowdenii (20 + yrs) is at my parents' garden in the banana belt of the Thames Valley, just west of London. In all cases that I have ever known, N. bowdenii is a strictly summer-growing plant. John Grimshaw Visit John Grimshaw's Garden Diary http://johngrimshawsgardendiary.blogspot.com/ Dr John M. Grimshaw 1 Kirkhill Farm Settrington Malton North Yorkshire YO17 8NT Tel. 01944 768494 In message <1349262658.24821.YahooMailNeo@web87701.mail.ir2.yahoo.com>, Nick de Rothschild <email@example.com> writes >Re John Grimshaw's reply.... you have to realise that he comes from 'up north' >and we come from 'down south'- up north they are a tough bunch, whereas >down south we are softies.