Peyote??

Jadeboy48@aol.com Jadeboy48@aol.com
Sun, 07 Apr 2013 22:04:28 PDT


 
In a message dated 4/6/2013 10:44:18 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time,  
idavide@sbcglobal.net writes:

I do not  agree with you.  Lophophora williamsii is a well known plant.  It 
is  
similar to L. diffusa, but they can be distinguished.  When I  lived in 
L.A., 
I was somewhat of an expert on cactus and grew  many.  Among my plants was 
L. 
williamsii, and of course it  flowered for me.  So far as tap root, only 
plants 
grown from seed  will have that.  Most plants are distributed from cuttings 
which 
have  only adventitious roots.  I assure you, that many of those souvenir 
dish  
collections sold in the Southwest contained Lophophora williamsii,  though 
I'm 
sure that none of the Northeasterners who bought those  souvenirs ever ate 
the 
plants.  Regarding its illegality -- it is  native to the U.S.; I'm not 
aware of 
the feds ever exterminating it.   But you're right, it was overcollected, 
which 
contributed to its  rarity.
I no longer live in L.A, and I no longer grow cactus.  Dish gardens of 
cactus 
are not sold in the Bay Area.

David  E.

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Dear david, I am not sure if  you got my other message but I can assure 
that 
they (Growers) do NOT put  peyote cactus plants in dish gardens!The peyote 
cactus  has a drug  that acts like LSD on the brain. Unless you are a 
member 
of the   Native American Church it is a felony to grow and possess the 
plant. 
I  would  have to look it up but it may have been as far back as !930 that  
it was made  illegal by the feds. Just type in Peyote cactus in a  search 
engine. You are in  for quite a surprise. You must have  confused this 
cactus 
with something else in  your dish garden. As a  grower of cactus for resale 
I 
can assure you no one in  their right  mind would plant this in a dish 
garden 
for resale. If you find a   dish garden with what you are sure  is peyote 
can 
you please send me  a  picture. I am a Botanical Taxonomist and would like 
to 
know what  you are seeing.  By the way peyote grown from seed has a fleshy, 
 
carrot like taproot, smooth  skin, white flowers and a globular head  
growing 
off the taproot. It almost never  clumps in nature unless the  top has been 
cut off. Then the head can resprout,  sometimes with  multiple globular 
heads. It is rare in nature because of over   harvesting for drug use-Russ 
H.


In a message dated 4/5/2013 6:40:26  P.M. Pacific Daylight Time,  
idavide@sbcglobal.net  writes:

A  federal crime to grow peyote?  Peyote is typically  included in those 
gift  
cactus plantings sold throughout the  southwest.  I shouldn't doubt  that 
many 
members of this  group grow it, although I doubt any of us use it  as a  
narcotic.

David   E.
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