pbs Digest, Vol 123, Issue 27 peyote

miss_mante@yahoo.co.uk miss_mante@yahoo.co.uk
Sun, 07 Apr 2013 10:10:48 PDT
Hello everyone.
I am quite new to growing bulbs but i've been reading all the info in the emails. Recently there has been a subject which i know a bit more about.
I am a member of british cactus and succulent society. I wanted to share some information about peyote in this country. I am not sure if it has been confirmed as illegal but i know that it is being sold everywhere - garden centres, cactus shows and mail order. It is not hard to find!
I understand that a few decades ago this plant has been used for it's hallucinogenic purposes but i don't see that happening amongst cacti growers :) 



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>   1. Re: Peyote?? (erick lux)
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>   3. Converting units (J. Denys Bourque)
>   4. Re: Weeds invading paved walkways (J. Denys Bourque)
>   5. What may be blooming in  fall,    2017 - Brunsvigia litoralis
>      seedlings (Ken)
>   6. Re: Nematode control of Narcissus bulb fly (Mark BROWN)
>   7. Re: Converting units (B Spencer)
>   8. Re: Peyote?? (Shmuel Silinsky)
>   9. Re: Variegated Society Garlic - Winter Hardy? (Shmuel Silinsky)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Sat, 6 Apr 2013 20:05:08 -0500
> From: erick lux <ericklux@gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [pbs] Peyote??
> To: Pacific Bulb Society <pbs@lists.ibiblio.org>
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> Having been in the nursery biz in Southern California for 20 some years, I
> never saw peyote in the trade---and I looked!  I knew people that had them
> in their private collections.  I always thought Matucana sp looked similar.
> 
> When I went to Amsterdam a few years ago, and was glad to see so many plant
> venders selling them openly.  I wouldn't be surprised if there are more
> Lophophora plants in The Netherlands than in the Southwest.
> 
> Cheers,
> Erick
> 
> 
> On Sat, Apr 6, 2013 at 7:16 PM, David Ehrlich <idavide@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
> 
>> Sue,
>>  No one who really knows cactus would ever confuse Ariocarpus with
>> Lophophora.
>> And Lophophora was certainly sold as part of a dish garden in gift shops.
>> I
>> think Tim and Jadeboy are confusing the harmless commerce in gifts with
>> genuine
>> drug trafficking.  The DEA certainly does not confuse the two.  And I
>> certainly
>> would not confuse Ariocarpus with Lophophora!
>> 
>> David E.
>> 
>> 
>> ________________________________
>> From: Sue Haffner <sueh@csufresno.edu>
>> To: Pacific Bulb Society <pbs@lists.ibiblio.org>
>> Sent: Sat, April 6, 2013 4:18:01 PM
>> Subject: Re: [pbs] Peyote??
>> 
>> I wonder if the original post might refer to Ariocarpus, rather than
>> Lophophora. I've seen ariocarpus plants in touristy dish gardens.
>> 
>> Sue Haffner
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> Message: 2
> Date: Sat, 6 Apr 2013 21:56:19 -0400
> From: B Spencer <bea.spencer@sympatico.ca>
> Subject: Re: [pbs] Peyote??
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> Do  they not do everything under the sun openly in the Netherlands? Sorry it 
> is not about bulbs. Could not resist!
> Bea
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> Date: Sat, 6 Apr 2013 07:36:52 -0700 (PDT)
> From: "J. Denys Bourque" <jdbourq@yahoo.co.uk>
> Subject: [pbs] Converting units
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> One member wrote recently that he didn't feel like looking up some conversion from US to SI.
> To convert anything to anything else, see the following site.
> It's really got everything in SI, Imperial US + many, many other units, like league (several kinds).
> 
> http://www.onlineconversion.com/
> I have it in my bookmarks and can access it fast.
> 
> ?
> J. Denys Bourque
> Saint-Jacques, NB?? CANADA
> 
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> 
> 
>> ________________________________
>> From: Leo A. Martin <leo@possi.org>
>> To: pbs@lists.ibiblio.org 
>> Sent: Friday, April 5, 2013 5:29:17 AM
>> 
>> ...(I know it isn't measured that way in SI but I don't feel like looking up the density of
>> granulated sugar) and 1 pint / 480ml 3% hydrogen peroxide.
>> 
>> Leo Martin
>> Phoenix Arizona USA
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> Date: Sat, 6 Apr 2013 07:48:23 -0700 (PDT)
> From: "J. Denys Bourque" <jdbourq@yahoo.co.uk>
> Subject: Re: [pbs] Weeds invading paved walkways
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> Another member writes he has some 
> areas where couch grass (Agropyrum repens) is invading and that he will 
> have to redo the paving!
> 
> For what this is worth, I have a patch of creeping thyme [= serpolet??] that flowers beautifully and that I am extending throughout my lawn. I have observed that very few weeds grow in it, and those that do are very shallow rooted. I am now also considering it for the interstices between the flat stones in my footpaths. Anyway, they are steppable on.
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> ?J. Denys Bourque
> Saint-Jacques, NB?? CANADA
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> Message: 5
> Date: Sat, 6 Apr 2013 21:13:55 -0700 (PDT)
> From: Ken <kjblack@pacbell.net>
> Subject: [pbs] What may be blooming in  fall,    2017 - Brunsvigia
>    litoralis seedlings
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> just thought I'd share this shot of some 18-month old Brunsvigia litoralis
> seedlings ... just another?4 or so years to bloom.
> 
> http://flickr.com/photos/amarguy/…
> 
> Ken Blackford
> happily back in San Diego, California!
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> Message: 6
> Date: Sun, 7 Apr 2013 09:41:24 +0200 (CEST)
> From: Mark BROWN <brown.mark@wanadoo.fr>
> Subject: Re: [pbs] Nematode control of Narcissus bulb fly
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> Many of my fellow gardeners use neem oil on their snowdrops and narcissi.
> They are all very happy with it.
> I have zillions of Narcissus pseudonarcissus wild in my region,(Haute Normandie) and never once had this pest. Most odd!
> Kind regards,
> Mark
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>> Message du 06/04/13 23:05
>> De : "Gene Mirro" 
>> A : pbs@lists.ibiblio.org
>> Copie ? : 
>> Objet : [pbs] Nematode control of Narcissus bulb fly
>> 
>> This writer says that Narcissus bulb fly can be controlled by nematodes: http://ipmnet.umd.edu/landscape/lndscpalerts/… See page 5. The nematode is Steinernema feltiae. It?s available from Home Depot (what isn?t?). http://homedepot.com/p/t/… Has anyone tried this? Any opinions? _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@lists.ibiblio.org http://pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki/
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> Message: 7
> Date: Sun, 7 Apr 2013 07:35:09 -0400
> From: B Spencer <bea.spencer@sympatico.ca>
> Subject: Re: [pbs] Converting units
> To: "Pacific Bulb Society" <pbs@lists.ibiblio.org>
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> Thank you Denys. I bookmarked it  too.
> Bea, Ontario
> 
> -----Original Message----- 
> From: J. Denys Bourque
> Sent: Saturday, April 06, 2013 10:36 AM
> To: pbs@lists.ibiblio.org
> Subject: [pbs] Converting units
> 
> One member wrote recently that he didn't feel like looking up some 
> conversion from US to SI.
> To convert anything to anything else, see the following site.
> It's really got everything in SI, Imperial US + many, many other units, like 
> league (several kinds).
> 
> http://www.onlineconversion.com/
> I have it in my bookmarks and can access it fast.
> 
> 
> J. Denys Bourque
> Saint-Jacques, NB   CANADA
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> ________________________________
>> From: Leo A. Martin <leo@possi.org>
>> To: pbs@lists.ibiblio.org
>> Sent: Friday, April 5, 2013 5:29:17 AM
>> 
>> ...(I know it isn't measured that way in SI but I don't feel like looking 
>> up the density of
>> granulated sugar) and 1 pint / 480ml 3% hydrogen peroxide.
>> 
>> Leo Martin
>> Phoenix Arizona USA
>> 
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> Message: 8
> Date: Sun, 7 Apr 2013 11:04:28 -0400
> From: Shmuel Silinsky <gardenbetter@gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [pbs] Peyote??
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> Lophophora is often found in cactus sections of nurseries here in Israel.
> 
> Shmuel
> Jerusalem, Israel
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> On Sat, Apr 6, 2013 at 9:56 PM, B Spencer <bea.spencer@sympatico.ca> wrote:
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>> Do  they not do everything under the sun openly in the Netherlands? Sorry
>> it
>> is not about bulbs. Could not resist!
>> Bea
>> 
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> Message: 9
> Date: Sun, 7 Apr 2013 11:09:10 -0400
> From: Shmuel Silinsky <gardenbetter@gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [pbs] Variegated Society Garlic - Winter Hardy?
> To: Pacific Bulb Society <pbs@lists.ibiblio.org>
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> Excellent, Jerry!
> 
> I usually consider the variegated form less vigorous than the all green
> form.
> 
> Was it covered by snow? That can have a nice insulating effect - and it
> sounds like your garden is pretty windproof.
> 
> Enjoy!
> 
> Shmuel Silinsky
> Jerusalem Israel
> USDA 9
> 
> 
> On Sat, Apr 6, 2013 at 8:32 PM, <Jtlehmann@aol.com> wrote:
> 
>> Last year I planted in my back yard a one-gallon pot of Variegated Society
>> Garlic, Tulbaghia violacea 'Variegata.'
>> 
>> Today I had a big surprise...it survived the winter and is growing.  I
>> didn't expect it to survive; it wasn't even an experiment.
>> 
>> My back yard is a postage stamp, bordered by a 6' high solid wood fence,
>> and the plant is by a flagstone patio.  Even with that, I can't justify my
>> back yard being two or more zones warmer, else I'd be growing palms.
>> 
>> Does this surprise anyone else?  What really is the winter hardiness  zone
>> for this plant?
>> 
>> --Jerry Lehmann, Olathe, KS, USA, zone 5
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