Paeonia mlokosewitschii

James Waddick jwaddick@kc.rr.com
Wed, 24 Apr 2013 20:54:25 PDT

On Apr 24, 2013, at 4:19 PM, aaron floden wrote:

> Where is the molecular data!!! Lumping all these under one heterogenous P. daurica does not make much sense when there are ploidy differences between some of them (caucasica=daurica v. coriifolia is 2n=10, and wittmanniana is 2n=20, diploid and tetraploid).

Dear Aaron and all, 
	You are totally right. I was just reporting basically that the species is in a taxonomic complex and exhibits variability.  Peony systematics are far from well understood or studied. The thing about all these so called daurica subspecies is that they do look a lot alike for what that's worth.
> 
>  The only recent phylogeny is from Russia and has a large polytomy where some of these Caucasus species included (they still include oreogeton). They also have the occasional hybrids that lead to the variability of flower color named; chamaeleon and litvinskajae. 
	Yet another taxonomic mess.
> 
>  Is that third and final part of the series out? Really, the phylogeny should have been first. So far I've only seen thorough analyses of the Moutan.
> 
	The 3rd Vol from Hong is still in process, but due later this year, I think. Will it clarify things? I doubt it. Unfortunately there's no one doing serious research on this topic.	Best	Jim W. 






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