potting media/dry stall - mixing it?2

Shoal Creek Succulents group@shoalcreeksucculents.com
Wed, 14 Aug 2013 09:45:19 PDT
Thanks. The link was at the very bottom of the email; I only read as far as
your email message.  :}

Best regards, Lisa

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On Behalf Of John Willis
Sent: Wednesday, August 14, 2013 6:56 AM
To: Pacific Bulb Society
Subject: Re: [pbs] potting media/dry stall - mixing it?2

I put the link in the message.  Perhaps that doesn't come through for you.

http://macgardens.org/?p=3610

- jw

On Aug 14, 2013, at 7:34 AM, Shoal Creek Succulents
<group@shoalcreeksucculents.com> wrote:

> Hi John-Where is your blog?
> 
> Best regards, Lisa
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: pbs-bounces@lists.ibiblio.org 
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> On Behalf Of John Willis
> Sent: Tuesday, August 13, 2013 9:14 PM
> To: Pacific Bulb Society
> Subject: Re: [pbs] potting media/dry stall - mixing it?2
> 
> Hi there, for what it's worth I just finished mixing up 40 cubic feet 
> of assorted good things for my new alpine bed using a cement mixer 
> that I bought from Lowes.  I looked at various options including used 
> items on craig's list but in the end I wanted something that was 
> likely to work for many loads.  Even this is a lot of manual labor but 
> it beats trying to mix the ingredients in a wheelbarrow.  I used 
> chicken grit for the gravel in two sizes (starter and developer) from 
> the local farmer's coop, topsoil bought in bulk and dumped in the 
> pasture, miracle gro potting mix, and a good general purpose sand 
> bought by the bag from a local nursery.  The details are on my blog.
> 
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> On Aug 9, 2013, at 5:48 PM, Ceridwen Lloyd <ceridwen@internode.on.net>
> wrote:
> 
>> Hi all,
>> Forgive me if this has already been discussed (I haven't yet had time 
>> to read all messages in this thread) - what do you use as a soil 
>> mixer? (The commercial nursery ones look excellent but I suspect my 
>> husband would protest.) Shovelling into a wheelbarrow is ok but slow 
>> and hard on my weedy old shoulders.  An ODJOB or sealed bucket type 
>> looks too heavy to lift if it were of any useful size, so I was 
>> wondering whether a conventional cement mixer would do the trick? I 
>> am leaning more and more toward mixing my own after finding all kinds 
>> of crud in commercial mix (half inch chunks of laminated particle 
>> board, various plastics, etc) which also grows an evil-smelling mould 
>> on top of it when in a lidded container, which I'm in no mood to 
>> inhale...another thread no doubt) Cheers Ceridwen (Just potted up 
>> Alophia lahue from FIRST EVER seed received, yay)
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> On 09/08/2013, at 9:57 PM, "Shoal Creek Succulents"
> <group@shoalcreeksucculents.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> Thanks to everyone for responses and this new chain.
>>> 
>>> I use a similar mix; although - Monica- yours is much more involved.  
>>> If it wouldn't be too much trouble - would you mind notating each 
>>> component's purpose?
>>> 
>>> I believe pumice & turface are added for moisture, aeration, CEC and 
>>> to reduce soil compaction; so why add the sand?
>>> 
>>> How big is your mixer, 5 gallon, 10 gallon?  And would you share how 
>>> much of each item on your minor mix?
>>> 
>>> For top dressing my plants, I found crushed granite at our local 
>>> Farm & Fleet store for $4.49 for a 50 pound bag.
>>> 
>>> As soon as I can locate all of the items in bulk at a low cost; I 
>>> will start making my own mix.  I am still using an organic mix and 
>>> adding to it.  Same as you; I vary the components based on the 
>>> individual needs of the plant to be potted.
>>> 
>>> Thanks again - very thought provoking.  Until now; I never realized 
>>> how expensive my commercially bought mix was - compared to making a 
>>> better mix myself at a lower cost.
>>> 
>>> Best regards, Lisa
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: pbs-bounces@lists.ibiblio.org 
>>> [mailto:pbs-bounces@lists.ibiblio.org]
>>> On Behalf Of Monica Swartz
>>> Sent: Monday, August 05, 2013 5:30 PM
>>> To: pbs@lists.ibiblio.org
>>> Subject: Re: [pbs] potting media
>>> 
>>> I use DryStall as my pumice source. It is cheaper and easier than 
>>> importing a truckload of Pumice to Texas. I am often asked about my 
>>> potting ingredients. For potting most plants, my basic mix is:
>>> 1 part pumice (DryStall),
>>> 1 part sand,
>>> 1 part Turface MVP (I love this stuff, I also root cuttings in pure 
>>> Turface),
>>> 1 part Diatomite (Napa Floor Dry 8822, but other Auto parts chains 
>>> have their own brands of the same thing),
>>> 1 part organic (usually a locally produced cactus mix).
>>> This all goes into a cheap electric cement mixer along with a scoop 
>>> of a mix of my minor ingredients which include Azomite, humic acid, 
>>> bone meal, blood meal, cottonseed meal, 9 month osmocote, systemic 
>>> fungicide, granular imidacloprid, inoculums, etc.
>>> It takes less than 5 minutes to make a big batch that is stored in 
>>> big plastic boxes with lids. When potting I add ingredients to this 
>>> base to tailor the mix for the needs of each plant. I use big metal 
>>> bowls from a restaurant supply. It's like cooking, a pinch of this 
>>> and that as I go. The objective of this potting "personalization" is 
>>> to have a healthy collection of plants that can all be watered at 
>>> the same time no matter where they are from. It takes no special 
>>> knowledge about the plants to water them, my house-sitter can do it, 
>>> or even my husband. If a plant is in no-water dormancy, it is moved 
>>> into the garage, out of range of the hose. This system has created a 
>>> surprising amount of freedom to take long worry-free vacations, and 
>>> the plants are very happy and embarrassingly fecund. The PBS BX/SX 
>>> is one
> beneficiary.
>>> m
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