Some of my bulbispermum from seed from Jim Waddick offset well here in Tennessee. Sadly, I really don't care for this cabbage-lke plant with a leaf to flower ratio of 95:5 for my small garden. Also the number of seeds produced is ridiculous and each germinates and survives my winters. This year I've taken to ripping out the stalks and mowing them while in young fruit. The variabile X bulbispermum hybrids sound promising, but maybe campanulatum should be thrown in to the mix as well? This only flowers for me if kept submerged year round in my bog garden, freezes and all. It was hardy in the ground, but never flowered without the excess water. It also has the benefit of flowering in late April to early May. Aaron PS My seed grown Ammocharis coranica flowered this spring after 12 years and it was a little bit of a let down for only two days were of moth-ball scented flowers. --- On Sun, 7/7/13, James Waddick <email@example.com> wrote: From: James Waddick <firstname.lastname@example.org> Subject: Re: [pbs] Crinum bulbispermum - to off set or ? To: "Pacific Bulb Society" <email@example.com> Date: Sunday, July 7, 2013, 5:09 AM On Jul 5, 2013, at 7:41 PM, Tony Avent wrote: > > > Since according to Dave Lehmiller, true Crinum bulbispemum never offsets, so the best viable option is seed. Dear Tony and all, Today I went out in the 90+ degree sun and observed my original decade plus planting of C. bulbispermum 'Jumbo'. One plant has a single stem without offset, but 2 others have 2 offsets each.