pbs Digest, Vol 126, Issue 2/pumice use

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Tue, 02 Jul 2013 21:26:54 PDT
To Ina, Pumice can be washed outside in a food strainer/collander and a lot 
 of the dust and fine pieces are washed away. I do it in my garden because  
the pumice won't harm anything. Sometimes the sacks I get are really dusty 
and  you should not inhale little particles of rock! Please use a face mask 
at the  very least. I use at least 30 sacks of coarse pumice,sometimes more. 
That is a  lot of dust to inhale! Good luck-Russ H. in Peoria AZ,Current 
9:30pm temp is  around 98F,20% humidity,variable winds,frequent dust 
storms,very high fire  danger.
 
 
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Today's  Topics:

1. Erythroniums sources (Nhu  Nguyen)
2. Re: Especie dos (Hannon)
3. Re: re  Grow Bulbs (Kirstenbosch Gardening Series)by Graham
Duncan (Youngs Aberdeen)
4.  Erythroniums sources (Gene  Mirro)
5. re pumice (Ina Crossley)
6. Re: re  pumice (steven hart)
7. Re: Erythroniums sources (Peter  Taggart)
8.  re pumice (AW)
9. Re: re  pumice (Ina Crossley)
10. Re: re pumice (Ina Crossley)
11.  Re: re pumice (Hannon)
12. Re: re pumice (Ina Crossley)
13. Re: re pumice (Shmuel Silinsky)
14. Re: re pumice (Ina  Crossley)


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Message:  1
Date: Mon, 1 Jul 2013 10:53:59 -0700
From: Nhu Nguyen  <xerantheum@gmail.com>
Subject: [pbs] Erythroniums sources
To:  Pacific Bulb Society <pbs@lists.ibiblio.org>,  sangil@xtra.co.nz
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Hi everyone,

If you could help  Carol, please email her directly at  sangil@xtra.co.nz

Nhu


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From: carol signal <sangil@xtra.co.nz>
Date: Sun, Jun  30, 2013 at 12:06 AM
Subject: PBS website contact:///erythroniums/
To:  xerantheum@gmail.com

I have been trying for some time to acquire some  erythronium bulbs and
was wondering if you would possible know of someone  who may have
these. I realize that it is not the right time to get these,  but I am
willing to wait for some. Hoping you can help me with this. Thank  you.
Carol Signal  opotiki


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Message: 2
Date:  Mon, 1 Jul 2013 11:51:05 -0700
From: Hannon  <othonna@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [pbs] Especie dos
To: Pacific  Bulb Society <pbs@lists.ibiblio.org>
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Looks like possibly the same Echeandia  (?) species. Very interesting
flowers and fruits. Your friend should make  multiple vouchers complete with
flowers and rootstock to deposit at a local  herbarium and at UNAM. Probably
someone working in an herbarium will know  the name of this plant. If a name
is arrived at please let us  know!

Dylan

On 1 July 2013 04:14, David Pilling  <pbs@pilling.demon.co.uk> wrote:

> Hi,
>
> The  second posting from Alexis asking for help with identification  [1]:
>
> http://tinyurl.com/k7eqqro/
>
> Este ejemplar  se encuentra en la misma zona que mi anterior especie! La
> ?nica  diferencia es que esta que muestro estaba en un Bosque de Pino y
> el  clima era mas frio. Atarjea, Guanajuato, Mexico.
>
> This specimen  is in the same area as my previous species! the
> only difference is  that this that show was in a pine forest and
> weather was colder.  Atarjea, Guanajuato, Mexico.
>
> [1]
>
>  https://skydrive.live.com//…
>  
Bsrc=Photomail&Bpub=SDX.Photos&authkey=!AIbHqiC4E7e6jAY<https://skydrive.live.com//…
SDX.Photos&authkey=!AIbHqiC4E7e6jAY>
>
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Message:  3
Date: Mon, 01 Jul 2013 20:25:38 +0100
From: Youngs Aberdeen  <youngs.aberdeen@btinternet.com>
Subject: Re: [pbs] re Grow Bulbs  (Kirstenbosch Gardening Series)by
Graham Duncan
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Good to hear Rachel has it at such a  fine price - but I don't think 
she'll be able to beat the price of ?16  delivered to me in Aberdeen , 
North East Scotland. The AGS offer is very  good for the UK.

Maggi  Y.


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Message: 4
Date: Mon, 1  Jul 2013 16:29:49 -0700
From: "Gene Mirro"  <mirrog@yahoo.com>
Subject: [pbs]  Erythroniums sources
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She?s in NZ?  How would  you get the bulbs past the Plant  Police?

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Message: 5
Date: Tue,  02 Jul 2013 15:33:07 +1200
From: Ina Crossley  <klazina1@gmail.com>
Subject: [pbs] re pumice
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I am using pumice in my mixes, but  only recently.  I bought the 7mm one 
which seems to have a lot of  dust and small stuff in it.  Does it still 
do it's job of drainage  with all the small stuff filling any gaps.

Ina

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Message: 6
Date:  Tue, 2 Jul 2013 14:18:29 +1000
From: steven hart  <hartsentwine.australia@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [pbs] re  pumice
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Yes it will Ina, but the fines will  retain more moisture


On 2 July 2013 13:33, Ina Crossley  <klazina1@gmail.com> wrote:

> I am using pumice in my mixes,  but only recently.  I bought the 7mm one
> which seems to have a  lot of dust and small stuff in it.  Does it still
> do it's job of  drainage with all the small stuff filling any gaps.
>
>  Ina
>
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Message: 7
Date: Tue, 2  Jul 2013 05:42:08 +0100
From: Peter Taggart  <petersirises@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [pbs] Erythroniums  sources
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I believe that there are plenty of  Erythroniums already in New Zealand, and
they grow easily from seed in any  case.
Peter (UK)

On Tue, Jul 2, 2013 at 12:29 AM, Gene Mirro  <mirrog@yahoo.com> wrote:

> She?s in NZ?  How would you  get the bulbs past the Plant  Police?
>


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Message:  8
Date: Mon, 1 Jul 2013 21:58:18 -0700
From: "AW"  <awilson@avonia.com>
Subject: [pbs]  re pumice
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Hi, Ina!

Small  pumice is fine for bulbs (no pun inteded). But, be careful when
handling  the stuff. The dust is not good for you.  

Andrew



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Message:  9
Date: Tue, 02 Jul 2013 17:19:37 +1200
From: Ina Crossley  <klazina1@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [pbs] re pumice
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So keep it moist would be best, as I  also do with potting mix, always.  
Thanks Andrew.
On 2/07/2013  4:58 p.m., AW wrote:
> Hi, Ina!
>
> Small pumice is fine for  bulbs (no pun inteded). But, be careful when
> handling the stuff. The  dust is not good for you.
>
> Andrew
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Message: 10
Date:  Tue, 02 Jul 2013 17:30:40 +1200
From: Ina Crossley  <klazina1@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [pbs] re pumice
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Thanks Steven.  I will do some  more investigation in sizes of pumice. 
They call this washed, I can't see  that as when I turned the hose on the 
top of the bag (having cut a hole in  the bottom) there was so much stuff 
coming out.

Back to the drawing  board.

Ina
On 2/07/2013 4:18 p.m., steven hart wrote:
> Yes it  will Ina, but the fines will retain more moisture
>
>
> On 2  July 2013 13:33, Ina Crossley <klazina1@gmail.com>  wrote:
>
>> I am using pumice in my mixes, but only  recently.  I bought the 7mm one
>> which seems to have a lot of  dust and small stuff in it.  Does it still
>> do it's job of  drainage with all the small stuff filling any gaps.
>>
>>  Ina
>>
>> --
>> Ina Crossley
>> Auckland  New Zealand zone 10a
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Message: 11
Date:  Mon, 1 Jul 2013 22:38:48 -0700
From: Hannon  <othonna@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [pbs] re pumice
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The fines are not harmful and can be  very helpful in coating live roots and
root hairs. Washing pumice deprives  roots of needed insulation and
moisture. For most plants there is such a  thing as a medium that is too
coarse and  aerated.

Dylan

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Message:  12
Date: Tue, 02 Jul 2013 17:47:17 +1200
From: Ina Crossley  <klazina1@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [pbs] re pumice
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I've been mixing the pumice with some  potting mix.  I thought that would 
offset any gaps.  Anyway, I  gave up the washing idea as it is far too 
time consuming.

Thanks  for that Dylan.

Ina
On 2/07/2013 5:38 p.m., Hannon wrote:
>  The fines are not harmful and can be very helpful in coating live roots  
and
> root hairs. Washing pumice deprives roots of needed insulation  and
> moisture. For most plants there is such a thing as a medium that  is too
> coarse and aerated.
>
> Dylan
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Message: 13
Date:  Tue, 2 Jul 2013 03:12:23 -0400
From: Shmuel Silinsky  <gardenbetter@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [pbs] re pumice
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I use fine as well as small pumice (I  think that's what you would call it -
here it is called tuff) mixed with  sand and a bit of sandy soil(sold in
bags here) in my inorganic cactus mix  as well as for Atacama bulbs and
other that rot easily. (We have cold wet  winters, but not freezing.) I also
use the fine with sand for germinating  seed of drainage loving plants with
good  success.
\
Shmuel
Jerusalem Israel
Zone 9


On Tue, Jul  2, 2013 at 1:47 AM, Ina Crossley <klazina1@gmail.com> wrote:

>  I've been mixing the pumice with some potting mix.  I thought that  would
> offset any gaps.  Anyway, I gave up the washing idea as it  is far too
> time consuming.
>
> Thanks for that  Dylan.
>
> Ina
> On 2/07/2013 5:38 p.m., Hannon  wrote:
> > The fines are not harmful and can be very helpful in  coating live roots
> and
> > root hairs. Washing pumice  deprives roots of needed insulation and
> > moisture. For most plants  there is such a thing as a medium that is too
> > coarse and  aerated.
> >
> > Dylan
> >
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Message:  14
Date: Tue, 02 Jul 2013 19:27:13 +1200
From: Ina Crossley  <klazina1@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [pbs] re pumice
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As these are bulbs I am growing, they  need more food than cacti do. And 
it is not rot, but disease which is the  problem.  Like you we have cold, 
wet winters, but not freezing,  Shmuel.

So I look for drainage and with feeding.

Tomorrow I will  go past the place which sells all these things and 
investigate  further.  According to their website the 7 mm pumice is 
supposed to  be from 4-7mm.  I don't see that fitting in with the sand 
and small  stuff there is in this pumice.

Ina
On 2/07/2013 7:12 p.m., Shmuel  Silinsky wrote:
> I use fine as well as small pumice (I think that's  what you would call 
it -
> here it is called tuff) mixed with sand and a  bit of sandy soil(sold in
> bags here) in my inorganic cactus mix as  well as for Atacama bulbs and
> other that rot easily. (We have cold wet  winters, but not freezing.) I 
also
> use the fine with sand for  germinating seed of drainage loving plants 
with
> good success.
>  \
> Shmuel
> Jerusalem Israel
> Zone 9

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Auckland New Zealand zone  10a



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