chen-yi nursery

Karl Church 64kkmjr@gmail.com
Sat, 08 Jun 2013 22:41:48 PDT
This all started with a warning about a fraudulent email, the same as about
a month ago. This site is about plants-BULB PLANTS-stay on topic.
Karl
zone 9a
On Jun 8, 2013 10:10 PM, "Shirley Meneice" <meneice@att.net> wrote:

> Good letter, Greg.  Helps to wake up we who tend to be a bit critical.
> Thank you, Shirley Meneice
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: pbs-bounces@lists.ibiblio.org [mailto:pbs-bounces@lists.ibiblio.org]
> On Behalf Of Greg Ruckert
> Sent: Saturday, June 08, 2013 4:08 PM
> To: Pacific Bulb Society
> Subject: Re: [pbs] chen-yi nursery
>
>
> > Historically, this is at odds with the reputation of the Chinese as a
> > people
> > you could do business with on a handshake, to say nothing of the quality
> > of
> > many of their manufacturers, particularly anything in the porcelain and
> > pottery
> > line.
>
> > The proprietress of the Chen-yi nursery might do far better in the long
> > run
> > propagating her wild-collected plants, growing them on, ascertaining
> their
>
> > true
> > identities, running an immaculately clean operation, and then selling
> them
>
> > for
> > considerably higher prices. However, I don't know if I'd have the
> > self-control
> > to do that myself, were I in her shoes.
>
> I had the privilege to meet Chen-yi in 1999. In fact she put me up in her
> unit in Beijing and took me to dinner.  Indeed business was done on a hand
> shake.
>
> It must be remembered that the email that started this thread was about
> fraud being perpetuated in her name.
>
> Before judgemental comments are made about the Chinese people we should
> look
>
> at all the history, not just select bits and pieces. Think about the boxer
> wars, about English attempts at colonization and the whole picture.
>
> I remember a long time ago, when our government still thought China was a
> military threat, saying that I didn't think the threat was real as they
> would buy us out before they went to war. Didn't need to be Nostradamus.
>
> Americans need to remember that China and its people are what have funded
> "The American Dream".  They own you.  Let us not be too judgemental.
>
> Any way, back to Chen-yi.  She comes from a Botanical family. Her father
> (had the priviledge to meet him as well), a Chinese Professor who has
> written beautiful books on Chinese orchids.
>
> Yes, her plants were wild collected back then, and probably still are. Her
> husband did the collecting. I visited the facility they despatched from.
> They didn't have the facilities to grow them on.
>
> It is very easy to be critical of their operation BUT they are getting
> plant
>
> material out to collectors - to us.  By the way our laws in Australia do
> not
>
> enable us to bring them in.
>
> What I lament is that we now have international laws, about money, that
> stop
>
> Botanical gardens from distributing material that originated overseas.
>
> These types of laws are what are causing Chen-yi's business model to work.
>
> Rather than criticising what she does it would be better to find a way to
> help her operate in a more acceptable way.
>
> Greg Ruckert
> Nairne,
> South Australia
>
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