pbs Digest, Vol 122, Issue 49

iain@auchgourishbotanicgarden.org iain@auchgourishbotanicgarden.org
Sat, 30 Mar 2013 13:10:50 PDT
Ref seed from the Archibald's.

Regrettably no longer possible,.

As I understand it this particular Scotsman is sadly no longer with us for 
the past few years now. Jim died aged 68 on August 9th 2010

Iain
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>   1. Re: Fertilizer for Nerine (arnold140@verizon.net)
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> Subject: Re: [pbs] Fertilizer for Nerine
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> I routinely toss some wood ashes on snow covered beds during winter.
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> Arnold
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> Dear Jim ,Thanks for your information. I am very familiar when you have a
> self sterility problem with certain flowers. As a retired grower once I
> know once other growers find a clone of something that grows well and has 
> some
> good qualities growers will just multiply that clone.The problem is losing
> genetic diversity. One disease can wipe out a susceptible clone and then 
> it
> is  gone, maybe forever.-Russ H.
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> In a message dated 3/29/2013 5:48:40 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time,
> jshields@indy.net writes:
>
> Another  possibility is that we are seeing one single clone making up the
> commercial stock of Sternbergia.  It is probably self-sterile, as  many
> other plants in the Amaryllidaceae are.  All you might need to  get seeds
> would be some live pollen from a different clone of the same  species.
>
> Another problem is that S. lutea occurs as triploid (2n = 3x =  33) as 
> well
> as the diploid (2n = 22) form.  Triploids are usually  sterile.   See:
> http://cites.com/
> http://bulbs.myspecies.info/content/…
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> I  would guess that you will have to find seeds of the diploid form, from
> one  of the seed exchanges or from someone like the Archibalds.  Good 
> luck!
>
> Jim Shields
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> At 08:23 PM 3/29/2013 +1300, you  wrote:
>>Russ, Sternbergia does not set seed.  It is something to do  with diploid
>>or whatever.  Do you have one which does set seed, as  there is a seed
>>setting one.  But the most often grown one does  not set  seed.
>>
>>Ina
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> From: "J.E. Shields" <jshields@indy.net>
> Subject: Re: [pbs] Fertilizer for Nerine
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> At 08:08 PM 3/29/2013 -0500, you wrote:
>>  I routinely toss some wood ashes on snow covered beds during winter.
>>
>>
>>Arnold
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>
> And this would not pose such a threat.  Fresh wood ashes contain the
> potassium as potassium oxide, K2O, which reacts with water in the air to
> form KOH, the extremely caustic potassium hydroxide.
>
> KOH will absorb carbon dioxide from the air to form potassium carbonate,
> "potash," which is still alkaline but not so destructive as KOH.
>
> Over time, the potassium carbonate absorbs more carbon dioxide from the 
> air
> and some of it becomes potassium bicarbonate, which is no more dangerous
> than baking soda.  It is all a matter of time and process.
>
> Arnold knows all this already, but  I thought a few of the others in the
> group might not.  By the way, I have been known to throw wood ashes on the
> top of a compost pile, where they can weather for a year or two.
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> Jim Shields
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