Tree frogs

Randall P. Linke
Fri, 01 Nov 2013 21:00:47 PDT
Here in the US at least, if not internationally, we have the on-line
"Darwin Awards" for those stupid enough to be done in by nature or other
acts of their own stupidity.

On Fri, Nov 1, 2013 at 8:35 PM, Ceridwen Lloyd <>wrote:

> Already wrote too much that wasn't bulb-related! So I won't reply to the
> list at large.
> But yes, red-bellies in particular are bad for dogs, dead in 20 minutes
> and with antivenene about $1100 a shot at the vet and often more than one
> needed, you'd better really love your pooch. Witless terrier was growling
> at me from under the roses a couple of Christmases back and I thought "oh,
> she's got a rat" but when I hauled her out I thought "oh she's killed a
> snake" then realised "oh she hasn't yet quite killed a snake". So my
> christmas present of a ladies 410 shotgun was used to despatch the mortally
> wounded but still very dangerous creature, only a two-footer but when we
> lived closer to a national park we had a resident as thick as my forearm.
> The browns are deadly from day one and they love to lay eggs in mulch, so
> late summer is a time to avoid poking around in it. Normally you leave them
> alone (it is illegal to kill one actually) and there are a few
> snake-catching businesses who charge more for a home visit than I'm allowed
> to! (Though I guess Australian medical cos
>  ts are lower than the US, different system and all that)
> No human deaths for a long time - and the last few have involved alcohol
> so I guess that's just evolution in action.
> But they do give me the heebie-jeebies a bit - it's not just sun
> protection that always has me in long pants.
> On a bulb-related note, I have been thrilled with the germination rates
> from my bulb exchange seeds, even ones not planted for a few seasons.
> Mostly I have liliums and even the more picky US ones have at least poked a
> few seedlings up. I have just potted up the survivors from I think my very
> first received seed, SIGNA, alophia lahue and cypella coelestis, though
> when the plant stand was blown over in a gale and I had to rescue what I
> could things became jumbled - there's a pot called "viridis" that is either
> lachenalia or ixia, have to wait and see.
> The only part of the US I've visited was Baltimore - for a few days just
> after Christmas on the way home from eloping to France - enough years ago
> that all the young black kids on the train had pagers!!
> We visited the Smithsonian to see the moon landing crafts and the
> supermarkets to see a cross section of the real life, but wrong time of
> year for flora.
> Now when I think of travel anywhere it's not really for the culture, it's
> to see the trees! (I had expressed a desire to go to Sakhalin island to a
> Russian patient, who just have me a look and remarked drily "you like
> bears?")
> Best
> Ceridwen
> Sent from my iPhone
> > On 2 Nov 2013, at 10:15 am, Jim McKenney <>
> wrote:
> >
> > Ceridwen, I wonder how many non-Australians know what the Australian red
> bellied snake and the brown snake are. Your casual references to them gives
> no indication.  Both are members of the same family as cobras, mambas,
> kraits and coral snakes among others. According to the wikipedia entry for
> the brown snake, it is the world's second most venomous land snake.
> >
> > Your poor dogs!
> >
> > Jim McKenney
> > Montgomery County, Maryland, USA where we have local snake species
> called red bellied snake and brown snake - ours are strictly of the
> harmless garden variety.
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