David, It's a bit unusual to have two that look so similar, if I understand you correctly.....first 4 photos represent two plants? But I would suggest that you have a hybrid flexipes x erectum cross, with examples of the two parents, if my guess is correct, in the last photo. Maybe it suggests that your source was actually growing plants from seed since this is usually a garden or domestic cross rather than a wild plant. Does not look like sulcatum, or at least what I think of as sulcatum. For what it's worth, of course. Robin Bell, Medford, zone 7 OR. On Apr 18, 2014, at 5:21 PM, administrator@pilling.demon.co.uk wrote: > Suzanne Vaughan wrote to the PBS web site: > > "This trillium (actually, there are 2 of them, first 4 photos) is different than any I have. I bought it from a nursery in Tennesse. I know that white trilliums begin white and fade to pink. The red and purple bloom as red and purple. But this one, only opened on Wednesday and it opened this color. The petals almost look more like the coloring of a hellebore. The petals started out this shaded, beige, pinkish color. Last photo is a red or purple trillium, not sure, but it starts out this color. Any ideas? Is it just a strange mutation of the red or purple? (but I have 2, as far as I know right now)." > > You can see the photos here: > > http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki/index.php/… > > Replies to the list please > > > > > > > David Pilling > _______________________________________________ > pbs mailing list > pbs@lists.ibiblio.org > http://pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php > http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki/