Mark, The "Himalayan Giant" was a name given to an Indian form of "verticillatum" and sold by Hoog and Dix. It seems to be abundant in nurseries in the EU, but mostly absent in the US. It should have larger flowers on longer peduncles and it is a larger plant overall. I am not sure what it really is at this point, but I know it is not verticillatum. The problem is that there are several non-cirrhose, whorled, leaved Polygonatum in northern India, Nepal and eastward into China. Aaron -------------------------------------------- On Fri, 3/7/14, Mark BROWN <brown.mark@wanadoo.fr> wrote: Subject: Re: [pbs] Polygonatum vert. "Himalayan Giant" Dear Aaron, I have a giant form but it was not labelled himalayan when I bought it. How does that form differ from verticillatum as seen in the alps here? Mark