Hi Hans, I wish I did have more information, but don't. I acquired both of these cyrtanthus around 1990, back when Logee's was decidedly old fashioned and the internet hadn't been invented. At that time, a friend saw #17 in bloom at Logee's, and just had to have it. It was *not* for sale, but he managed to beg a bulb from the notoriously stingy owner for a mere $30. He later shared it with me, and I'm grateful to have the BX as a vehicle for sharing it with others. A year later, I visited Logee's in January, and marveled over their 'pit' greenhouse where the cool growing plants were thriving, with dozens of snowdrops in the gravel bed. #18 was then blooming, and I coveted it immediately. It, too, was *not* for sale but managed to find a way home. It turned out to be a shy bloomer, and only did so after filling the pot. Again, I've been happy to share it with the BX. I do know that Logee's was buying in a lot of unusual plants from England around that time, and that was probably the source of the cyrtanthus hybrids. I have no idea about the parents aside what I can guess from various online pictures. #18 certainly looks like some of Bill Dijk's C. eucallus hybrids, but it also looks like Lee Poulsen's C. elatus hybrid. Your guess is as good as mine. Enjoy, --Roy NW of Boston, waiting for the supermoon to come out from behind the clouds. On 9/8/2014 7:56 AM, Hans Huizing wrote: > Roy do you have more information on these two Hybrids? > Could nr. 17 be a C. eucallus Hybrid? > > nr 17 is flowering just now with a beautiful, as you say, soft and > delicate orange. > Looks a lot like the last picture of Cyrtanthus eucallus hybrids on the > PBS wiki. > > > 17. Cyrtanthus hybrid #1 ex Logee's. Big, soft orange trumpets. Evergreen. > > 18. Cyrtanthus hybrid #2 ex Logee's. Smaller medium orange trumpets > fading to pink. Evergreen.