You get the same no-petals look in Manfreda, which are much easier for most people to grow than Eucrosia, and also make more flowers. Leo Martin Phoenix Arizona USA Zone 9? Calochortus catalinae from recent BX well up. Sent with ProtonMail mobile _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/…