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Title: Iberian-North African Crocus
Post by: Carlos on November 15, 2023, 10:36:30 PM
Hi, after being sent a paper which changes many things on Crocus nomenclature here, I started some research.

I am looking for any of these numbers for purchase or exchange, specially the first one:

JJA352.099 : CROCUS SEROTINUS subsp. SALZMANNII Spain, Granada, Sierra Nevada below PeƱones de San Francisco, 2300m. Turf in NW-facing depression. (A strongly stoloniferous race from alpine-turf. We came across it in 1970 but, other than recording its existence, no-one has thought it worth distinguishing. We have not seen any other quite like it but the C. serotinus group is more than a little complicated. Small corms with long, couch-grass-like stolons. Profuse, pale lilac flowers in autumn.)

JJA352.003 : CROCUS SEROTINUS subsp. SALZMANNII Morocco, Mischliffen = ABS4350

JJA352.004 : CROCUS SEROTINUS subsp. SALZMANNII Morocco, Ksar el Ksiba = ABS4411

JJA352.005 : CROCUS SEROTINUS subsp. SALZMANNII Morocco, Larache. Ex M.Salmon & M.Fillan = SF242.

I am gathering plants from my area and having others sent from Portugal. I might get seeds on them and I will have local salzmannii available, maybe also nevadense.

Thanks

Carlos
Title: Re: Iberian-North African Crocus
Post by: janemcgary on November 19, 2023, 03:22:07 PM
Carlos,  I have a couple of these Archibald collections, but when I moved 10 years ago I did not keep them separately labeled, so I can't provide authenticated material. Sorry!
Title: Re: Iberian-North African Crocus
Post by: Carlos on November 20, 2023, 03:36:54 AM
It doesn't matter, do you know which ones they were? And do you have all other Crocus identified? We can sort them out by looking at the bulbs, flowers and leaves...

Carlos
Title: Re: Iberian-North African Crocus
Post by: janemcgary on November 20, 2023, 09:59:53 PM
I will write to you privately to discuss the crocuses.