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Charles

I may have it.

Let me check and I can scan it and send off to you or post it here.

Hi. I have recently acquired a bulb of the Mexican spiderlily species Hymenocallis cleo, also known as Hymenocallis chiapisiana. I can find little about this one, and it is not included in the listed Hymenocallis on the PBS Wiki (under either name). Trying to find out what its growing conditions are in the wild so I can try to grow it in the garden.  I know it grows in the highlands of the southeastern Mexican state of Chiapis. Anyone grow it or know about it?

I did write down that the late Thad Howard, an expert on Mexican Hymenocallis who made expeditions to see them years ago, wrote an article on this one in Plant Life. I have that it was in 1979; #35, pages 56-57. If anyone has that article, I would greatly appreciate if you could post it here, or else send it to me. Thanks.

Charles

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Quote from: Carlos on April 18, 2024, 01:59:22 PMI came back crossing a badly burned area in 2022, there are few signs of recovery, but I saw a few patches of Iris lutescens.

FANTASTIC seeing them in habitat like that! Thanks for sharing, Carlos!!

Thanks, I am used to seeing it but had to stop the car.

BTW... what are the blue leafed plants in the background that look like they could be Yuccas?

Asphodelus cerasiferus. They also survive fires well.

This morning I found Neomarica northiana open.

Quote from: Carlos on April 21, 2024, 01:53:09 PM

Quote from: Too Many Plants! on April 19, 2024, 03:28:56 PM

Quote from: Carlos on April 18, 2024, 01:59:22 PMI came back crossing a badly burned area in 2022, there are few signs of recovery, but I saw a few patches of Iris lutescens.

FANTASTIC seeing them in habitat like that! Thanks for sharing, Carlos!!

Thanks, I am used to seeing it but had to stop the car.

BTW... what are the blue leafed plants in the background that look like they could be Yuccas?

Quote from: Too Many Plants! on April 19, 2024, 03:28:56 PM

Quote from: Carlos on April 18, 2024, 01:59:22 PMI came back crossing a badly burned area in 2022, there are few signs of recovery, but I saw a few patches of Iris lutescens.

FANTASTIC seeing them in habitat like that! Thanks for sharing, Carlos!!

Thanks, I am used to seeing it but had to stop the car.

An unknown Gladioli.

Appreciate any info leading to a correct ID.

Addendum:  I now believe it G. carneus

Leaf width at 14 mm
Perianth tube    45mm
leaf 14 mm
anther mauve
pollen cream to purple

So the gifter of this bulb confirmed this to be/should be Watsonia Coccinea. The leaves are like 12" tall on average, and it is MUCH smaller than the few other Watsonia I have.
When it's sunny on the plant the flowers look more orange, when it's in shade the flowers look more red.

Quote from: Uli on April 20, 2024, 12:49:20 AMLauw de Jager is the owner of the now defunct nursery Bulb'Argence in southern France. He sold a wide range of often unusual bulbs suitable for the Mediterranean Climate. He also wrote a nicely illustrated booklet on Mediterranean Bulbs but in French.
I also got the orange form of Moraea ochroleuca from him but it tends to disappear in my garden. It is planted in the open ground and I suspect mice........ there is just one single specimen flowering at this moment.
The yellow ones have also declined but seem to be less palatable to the critters.

Too funny you say that! IDK if you saw the little story I included with my yellow ones some posts back. I had a gopher come through my rather good-sized patch (peach and yellow together that always did great and was increasing each year) during the dormant time of year, when the next flowering came around all the peach were gone, and it looked as though he didn't dine on the yellow at all.

Quote from: Uli on April 20, 2024, 12:49:20 AMLauw de Jager is the owner of the now defunct nursery Bulb'Argence in southern France. He sold a wide range of often unusual bulbs suitable for the Mediterranean Climate. He also wrote a nicely illustrated booklet on Mediterranean Bulbs but in French.

Booklet available in French and English from the PBS archive:

https://www.pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki/index.php/Archive