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OK, last try on this one: The only thing obvious here is that we define "Empirically evident" in different ways. To me it is empirically evident that a "God" (male, female, diverse, united or split in sub-deities), quite similar to a "nation" or or an "Ideology" is a socio- psychological construct, gaining indirect power through the real people believing in it/them/him/whatever - mind you, not in the Terry Pratchett way, but through the actions of those people.

I'm happy to discuss those two very different points of view of the two of us, and invite others to join in

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