Is this a Hybrid?

Started by Martin Bohnet, May 25, 2025, 12:09:39 AM

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Martin Bohnet

In August 2022 my Boophone disticha
flowered and produced a single seed, resulting in the plant you see in the first picture, second is the mother plant. The "baby" is about 3 cm across, just breaking it's second dormancy, during which I've lifted the bulb overground (keeping roots intact, of course) for better humidity control, like  the mother.

Now while I won't comment on leaf color under artificial lights, everything about the shape of emergence screams Crinum to me as it already did after 1st dormancy, no one interprets on the first three leaves before that - or do boophones have juvenile leaves before their characteristic fan shape? The seedling photo in the Wiki indicates otherwise. The only other amaryllid that might have been in flower back then was a XAmarcrinum memoria-corsii "Fred Howard", and they are completely sterile as seed parent for me. Maybe another plant in bee-range? But even the simple crinums are rarely used in my area.
Martin (pronouns: he/his/him)

CG100

A couple of hassles - what you see is not what I see as any pic' has gone through countless change in the digital world.

The physicals of the plant look like B.d. although I would expect that level of leaf distortion/waviness only under very high light levels.

All that red on B. d. ................................ All leaves here in the sun-starved UK, erupt from the bulb as blue-green except the leaf edges which are pale.

I have several B. d. that I have imported over quite a few years, from small seedling to around 10cm diameter.

Arnold

Martin

I've grown a couple of Boohone's both winter and summer growers and the emerging leaf doesn't look like you the image on the left.  Leaves come up flat usually facing each other.
Arnold T.
North East USA

Uli

Hello Martin,
Could it be that another seed germinated in the pot where you planted the Boophone seed which may not have germinated?
For a Crinum I would miss the usual long neck. Could it be Albuca?
Finally you will have to wait for more development and maybe a flower to be sure what you have there.
Uli
Algarve, Portugal
350m elevation, frost free
Mediterranean Climate

CG100

Boophone disticha is distichous, no matter the age, or at least in bulbs of around 12mm or so and larger. (I assume that haemanthioides is the same...) New leaves errupt from dry bulbs as two parallel leaves.

Boophone also retain the bases of leaves to form tunics.

Martin Bohnet


Quote from: Uli on May 26, 2025, 01:05:29 AMHello Martin,
Could it be that another seed germinated in the pot where you planted the Boophone seed which may not have germinated?
For a Crinum I would miss the usual long neck. Could it be Albuca?
No, there was only one fleshy amaryllid seed in the pot and nothing else, half-covered so the connection seed to plant is easily maintained

Quote from: CG100 on May 26, 2025, 04:53:32 AMBoophone disticha is distichous, no matter the age, or at least in bulbs of around 12mm or so and larger. (I assume that haemanthioides is the same...) New leaves errupt from dry bulbs as two parallel leaves.
that's what I thought and what's indicated by the wiki image.
Quote from: CG100 on May 26, 2025, 04:53:32 AMBoophone also retain the bases of leaves to form tunics.
Them missing may be a result from just moving it above ground last dormancy.

So you all agree that's something different then a pure boophone. Oh well interesting years ahead, let's hope it will end up spectacular...if I had to put on a wish list: Size & easy handling, easy flowering & many offsets from Amarcrinum and mass of flowers from Boophone. One can dream...
Martin (pronouns: he/his/him)

CG100

A Boonum? Or Criphone?

It somehow doesn't remind me of a Crinum though. Maybe not universally true, and speaking from memory, Crinums here, assuming that they die back when dormant, start with the two youngest leaves, so they have truncated tips where they died back during dormany.