Dear All, I made a Hymenocallis page for the wiki which I hope Kevin Preuss and some of the other fans of this genus will improve with text and pictures. I know he and Jim Shields and many of the rest of you really love this genus. I'd only be looking up information. http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki/index.php/… When Kevin talked about this on another list he separated out Ismene, Elisena, and Leptochiton but I see in John Bryan's book he says that Ismene is included in Hymenocallis. Without stirring up things too much can you experts tell me whether I should make a wiki page for Ismene to include Sheila Burrow's wonderful photo of Ismene x festalis? Or should it be on the Hymenocallis page. What I have done for Moraea which now includes a low of genera that many of us still think of as other things like Galaxia, Homeria, Gynandriris is to call them subgroups and make a page for each which is referenced from Moraea. If anyone searches by name they will still find them but they are labeled as Moraeas. Also I would like to point out if you are searching that the Wiki uses Unix, not Windows and as such it is case sensitive. So if you search it will matter whether or not you capitalize a word. Try it both ways if you are searching to be sure you find what you are looking for. Thanks all for your help on this. Mary Sue