I agree. I was hooked after seeing R. grandiflora blooming in its lovely fashion. The petals look like silk! I think I bought half of the Silverhill choices a couple of years ago, and most have thin little green shoots this year. At 10:26 PM 2/26/2003 -0800, you wrote: >I think sticking with Silverhill Seeds Marguerite English - Gardening with bulbs and perennials at 3500 feet in the mountains of southern California.