Dear all, I can confirm much of what has already been posted on this topic: Rod & Rachel's Silverhill Seeds and Ron Ratko's Northwest Native Seeds are top notch sources of seed. Seed exchanges are to be avoided -- god only knows what they will send you; sometimes it's even as labeled. I have had much better luck with person-to-person exchanges of seeds. Archibald's have sent me their price lists but never filled an order -- at least they don't cash my checks. I've given up on them. They were probably just sold out of whatever I wanted by the time I sent in my orders. Bulbs from Mr. Janis Ruksans and from Diana Chapman's Telos are always excellent; I cannot recommend both highly enough. Paul Christian does have very rare and expensive bulbs. Those species from South Africa are not usually acclimated to the Northern Hemisphere when I have received them from him. That is not damning condemnation; I supply bulbs that way myself sometimes. Barry and Andy's Asiatica have very good quality and very pricey bulbs, especially Arisaema. Recommended for big, healthy, rare Arisaema. I have been very pleased with bulbs from Welland Cowley's Cape Flora Nursery in Port Elizabeth, South Africa. Charles Craib has very unusual species and ships good quality bulbs; I can't say more without conflict of interest because I am working with him now myself. Cameron and Rhoda McMaster are some of my favorite bulb people and -- once they get relocated in the Western Cape -- are a source you should look into; their business name is The Croft Wild Bulb Nursery. I have had mixed luck with mass market mail order bulb houses; every one has occasionally shipped mis-labeled or poor quality bulbs to me. Still, I go back to them almost every year for some things. All of the above as well as some not so highly recommended sources are listed in the various Sources pages I maintain. Look first at URL = http://shieldsgardens.com/GLOVBulbs/SOURCES.html/ where the listings are sort of but not quite in alphabetical order. You can search the page for sources of certain genera that have happened to interested me from time to time by going to the page and then searching is using Ctrl-F in your browser. If you want a more thorough search, but somewhat out of date (1999) listing, ask me for my MS Access database called the "Bulbfinder". Just my 2 cents worth! Jim Shields in central Indiana, where the sun is shining and the forecast is for warm days (50°F) and mild nights (above 30°F) ahead! ************************************************* Jim Shields USDA Zone 5 Shields Gardens, Ltd. P.O. Box 92 WWW: http://www.shieldsgardens.com/ Westfield, Indiana 46074, USA Tel. +1-317-896-3925 Member of INTERNATIONAL CLIVIA CO-OP