Boyce Tankersley
Wed, 14 May 2003 07:00:54 PDT
Hi Jane:

I have to agree with Martin. We have Muscari szovitsianum from a known population in Republic of Georgia. Seeds were collected for us, we saw the populations in flower. The RHS Dictionary identifies it as a synonym for M. armeniacum. The seedlings have flowered for the first time this spring. They don't much resemble M. armenaicum, but then neither did the wild population. We assumed that if the seedlings matched M. armeniacum in our collections from Holland then they were in fact synonyms. As per the introduction to this genus, it appears there is a real need to sort things out taxonomically.

Boyce Tankersley

-----Original Message-----
From: Martin and Yvonne Philippo
Sent: Tuesday, May 13, 2003 4:20 PM
To: Pacific Bulb Society
Subject: RE: [pbs] Muscari--TOW

Hello Jane,
certainly there are many synonyms of Muscari armeniacum. I have several
forms of M. armeniacum in my collection, collected (not by me ) in Turkey,
Greece and other countries. They are all different. I don't always agree
with the botanists that simply put many forms under one species name. Some
of these forms are truly nice and interesting! Don't dislike your M. conicum
because it is 'merely' a synonym, judge it on its beauty. If you have any
seeds left over this year I would love to try it.

Martin Philippo, Noordwijkerhout, the Netherlands

e-mail: martin philippo

-----Original Message-----
From: []On
Behalf Of Jane McGary
Sent: Tuesday, May 13, 2003 9:43 PM
To: Pacific Bulb Society
Subject: Re: [pbs] Muscari--TOW

Mary Sue asked,
 >Just now blooming from Jane's surplus bulbs is Muscari pallens. It didn't
even come up until April and I was sure it was >a goner. It is a sweet
little thing. How long do I need to keep it growing and does it need summer

I don't know whether it needs summer water, but it certainly tolerates it,
because all of mine are in places where they get a small amount of
irrigation in summer.

By the way, a couple of years ago I got seed from the Scottish Rock Garden
Club under the name Muscari conicum. I was quite pleased at how attractive
it was in flower this year and looked it up.'s an invalid synonym
of M. armeniacum. As they say, if dandelions were hard to grow, people
would think they were gorgeous.

Jane McGary
Northwestern Oregon, USA

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