> >If your seeds are entirely transparent flakes, they are not >viable seeds. > I remember a message from a Lily Society member - head of the seed exchange, I think. He would divert any donated seeds lacking embryos from the seed exchange, but would toss them all in a certain spot in his garden. A surprising number of them germinated. I wouldn't bother trying to grow such seeds unless they were of overwhelming rarity. -- Diane Whitehead Victoria, British Columbia, Canada maritime zone 8 cool mediterranean climate (dry summer, rainy winter - 68 cm annually) sandy soil