Kevin- Thanks for the information. A synonym for H. arenicola is H. declinata. Described in Flora of the Bahama Archipelago (Correll) as Bulb large. Leaves basal, erect spreading; blades fleshy, smooth, dark-green, 4-6 dm long, 4-6 cm wide, etc. Scape almost equalling the leaves. Gracts large, scarious, ovate to lanceolate, 3-6 cm long, 1-2.5 cm wide. Flowers 7 - 13 in sessile umbel, white, fragrant;tube filiform, rarely longer than 10 cm. I have a picture somewhere that I will post when I find it. Interesting that H. expansa and H. carribae are not listed in the Flora, only arenicola, lattifolia (caymenensis), and speciosa. Synonyms? Ah well, this discussion has been a great help in getting started on the IDs. Thanks, Phil Andrews >From: "Kevin D. Preuss" <hyline@tampabay.rr.com> >Reply-To: Pacific Bulb Society <pbs@lists.ibiblio.org> >To: "Pacific Bulb Society" <pbs@lists.ibiblio.org> >Subject: Re: [pbs] Hymenocallis--TOW >Date: Sat, 24 Apr 2004 09:25:21 -0400 > >Phil - >This seems to be the case in the West Indes and Meso America - one grows >along the coast and the other is more riparian. >Typically H. carribbeae occurs on the island while latifolia gows on the >coastline of the Gulf dwn into Central America beaches. >I've yet to figure out what H. expansa is ( I think this one lacks a neck). >H. aerenicola I am not that familiar with. (mine has a neck and 3 offsets). >The other plant you have could be H. expansa as I have heard of this >occurring on one end of an island while H. carribeae formed large colonies >on the other side of the isalnd. > >Kevin Preuss > > > The out islands of the northern Bahamas have two 'endemic' Hymenocallis > > (that I've seen). I hesitate on the endemic status of these because >although > > I've seen one them frequently in the wild, the area has been settled for > > quite a while and I keep second-guessing myself as to the species. One is > > relatively large-bulbed (H. arenicola?) and grows in the coral sand dunes > > right up to the storm line. The bulbs are oten deeply buried. It does >not > > divide and is remarkable tolerant of salt and the winter drought. It is > > interesting to observe this lily growing out of the debris line from past > > hurricanes on some of the uninhabited shorelines. Its not clear how far > > these plants have been carried by the storms. > > The second species grows more inland, offsets freely and has smaller, > > narrower, more upright leaves that come to a distinct point. The flowers > > are correspondingly smaller and have a relatively small corolla. I've > > never observed this species on the dunes and its usually associated with > > human habitation- often with abandoned settlements. > > Virtually all plants exhibit some degree of infection (Cercospora?) as >they > > begin to go dormant during the dry season although plants on the dunes > > appear to be much less susceptible. > > Thanks for the useful discussion, > > Phil Andrews > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > MSN Toolbar provides one-click access to Hotmail from any Web page - FREE > > download! http://toolbar.msn.com/go/onm00200413ave/… > > > > _______________________________________________ > > pbs mailing list > > pbs@lists.ibiblio.org > > http://www.pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php > > >_______________________________________________ >pbs mailing list >pbs@lists.ibiblio.org >http://www.pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php _________________________________________________________________ Test your ‘Travel Quotient’ and get the chance to win your dream trip! http://travel.msn.com/