----- Original Message ----- From: "J.E. Shields" <jshields104@insightbb.com> Subject: Re: [pbs] Lycoris page found L. radiata radiata, the triploid form common in cultivation, is more or less hardy up here in Indiana. > The diploid form, Lycoris radiata pumila, is not hardy here, as far as I can tell from trying it a couple of times Jim, I find it interesting that, once again, the high ploidies prove a bit hardier. It has been postulated that many of the northern forms of plants are polyploids and better suited to the extremes. Many of the Paeonia are tetraploid in the far north of their ranges. Maybe this is a method to create hardy bulbs? Has anyone tried colchicine treatment of scales, etc? I know they have suceeded with Lilium, but I do not know what method was used. This may all be way off base, but... Jamie V. Cologne