Hi, I can't let the statement below pass. >I would claim that Mary Sue is an example of one who is in the category of >"superb bulb grower" (or expert hobbyist as I would classify it); after >all, she *knows* all the correct scientific names of all the species she >has grown or has seen Not true. I used to think of myself as a bulb addict, someone in need of help, but after meeting Gordon Summerfield and Alan Horstmann in South Africa who described themselves as passionate about bulbs I decided that sounds oh so much nicer. I kill bulbs regularly, have seeds that never come up, and bulbs I can't identify. I am still trying to figure out bulbs that I don't think are rightly named. I get farther in the keys these days, but often get to a point that stops me in my tracks. Because of all the helpful information I have been able to pick up first from the IBS list when I was still a part of it and then the ABA lists and finally the pbs list my knowledge has expanded enormously. Meeting people and seeing how they grow bulbs has been a huge help as well. I still have much to learn and do not consider myself an expert, just enthusiastic. Mary Sue