Hi, Jane didn't mention that she sometimes has these on her surplus list. I have grown Lewisia cotyledon in gallon containers for a number of years. I think I tried planting one out and it didn't do well. Maybe it was too big at that stage. On the other hand I have found that they need a lot of fertilizer to bloom well and that I seem to be able to manage better in containers. The way I grow them is in filtered shade a bit sheltered from all our rain and moist year round. I work slow release fertilizer into the top of the soil and they bloom well. I once heard in a talk if you let these dry out too much in summer they may go dormant and if you then water them they may rot. I've recently potted up some tiny ones that reseeded from my pots so maybe I'd have some to try at a small size in the ground. Mary Sue