At 07:32 AM 16/11/2005, you wrote: >Hi, > >I've added Cameron's pictures of this species to the wiki. >http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki/index.php/… > > Do we think we should rename Paul Tyerman's picture of this species? I >have noted that it is probably A. praecox. Mary Sue, Cameron etc, I was going to ask about my species pic as I realise that by the sound of it it won't be the real thing. It definitely does resemble the pics from Cameron though. A rather delicate plant, quite long and thin stems (to about 2 foot tall in flower), not exactly deciduous but does die down a fair bit. My picture really doesn't do it justice colour-wise, so if it flowers this year for me I'll try photographing it with my new camera. Unfortunately having lost all my recent pictures with my hard drive crash I can't even tell you when it flowers here as that information was stored with the pics. The foliage definitely has purple at the base of it, which could easily rule it out of contention for true species if the true species doesn't have that feature? Unlike many Agapanthus that don't seem to mind being disturbed and divided, mine definitely dislikes it. I have had some plants of it die when divided up, although thankfully I have always kept some of it alive. Seedlings uniformly show the purple foliage base so it is a stable characteristic in the progeny, and all seem to be sticking to the more diminutive growing habit. If it IS a hybrid then the seedlings at this stage seem to be rather uniform of size and shape, but I have not had any of them flower as yet so I cannot verify whether the flowers are the same (but I think I did send some seed to the IBS or PBS exchange at some point from memory..... I think?). I find that it tends to like it hot and dry in summer as it definitely seems to prefer smaller pots rather than larger ones (which seem to aid in it dying out) so I am assuming that it rots if too wet? So, does the above information rule it out of contention as the true species Cameron/Rhoda? I know that quite often in Australia we do have some unusual things turn up in our gardens that really shouldn't be here, as we did have some collectors in the early 20th century that brought in some very unusual items to Aus, which have propagated out into some of our gardens etc. Having lost my master list in the hard drive loss I can't even tell you where this Agapanthus originated, although I have a vague idea that I can follow up if desired? If it IS who I think it came from then they grow a lot of their stuff from seed and it may very well be the real species if seed of it has been collected in the past? Anyway, just wanted to add any more information I could think of to the discussion. Happy to rename mine if it is incorrect...... it was what I bought it as and it is distinctly different to any other Agapanthus I grow (and I have managed to acquire a few over the years, somewhat accidentally starting a bit of a collection of them! LOL). My favourite of them would have to be 'Black Pantha' which is a cultivar, supposedly found amongst inapertus seedlings in Australia, which has buds that are almost black and the flower has very dark purple/black and light striping when open. It has the "mop head" type of flowerhead of inapertus and has some of the deciduous characteristics. Altogether a rather distinctive variety and well worth growing. I haven't checked whether it has buds on it this year as yet, but hopefully it will so that I can photograph it again. I hope some of the above is useful! Cheers. Paul Tyerman Canberra, Australia - USDA Zone Equivalent approx. 8/9 Growing an eclectic collection of plants from all over the world including Aroids, Crocus, Cyclamen, Erythroniums, Fritillarias, Galanthus, Irises, Trilliums (to name but a few) and just about anything else that doesn't move!!