Just a quick note, to let those that aren't familiar with Ron Ratko, doing business as Northwest Native Seed, know of the release of his 2006 wild collected seed list. Included are Erythroniums, Iris, Calochortus and many, many other genera of all types (bulb, shrubs, trees, annuals, etc.). The seed list is an incredible resource in of itself, with very detailed descriptions, often including location, soil, times, orientation and taxonomic comparisons. My personal experience and his reputation with others put him at the top of the scale. He can be reached and a seed list requested (in .doc, .rtf or .pdf formats) at oreonana@mbay.net Happy Holidays, Everyone Dave B