I'm a native Oregonian, and I can attest that the weather on the east side of the Willamette River near the Columbia River is much different than that on the southwest side of the river. That's partially determined by the Columbia River and Gorge, which brings Arctic-type temperatures west and somewhat south. When it's 25 in Tigard with no snow, it will probably be 10 or below in the areas you mentioned with a foot or more of snow. Tigard, Tualatin, Lake Oswego, etc. are a little protected because the winds from the Gorge don't usually travel that far southwest. I had 6 feet of snowdrifts in my yard in S.W. Portland in 1968-69, and the road and driveway had 3 feet, but that wasn't common. Dell Sherk <dells@voicenet.com> wrote: Dear Jane and Joyce and others who live in Oregon, I recently visited relatives in Tigard, OR (SW of Portland) and traveled to the vicinity of Mt Hood, the fruit growing region on the northeast of the mountain. I know that in CA, the climate/zone/temps and rainfall can vary dramatically from east to west. My relatives told me that in Tigard, there is very little snow and temps rarely get lower than 25F. Is this also true of Gresham, Estacada, and other towns east of Portland? Dell _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@lists.ibiblio.org http://www.pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php