I'm really pleased to see this new wiki page and the pretty flowers. I've always wondered if they really bloomed. Like Jane, I've bought these a number of times from commercial sources and have never seen them flower, nor have they lasted longer than perhaps the second year. I finally concluded they weren't meant to be in my garden. They definitely need more than just a dry summer. I tried in Stockton too where it is much warmer in the summer. Mary Sue Mary Sue Ittner California's North Coast Wet mild winters with occasional frost Dry mild summers