Here in Boston MA, it seems to thrive in quite cold conditions. Regardless of it spending the winter with or without a good snow cover it seems to come back great guns every year. I knew of a good sized carpet that had naturalized on the grounds of a house that burnt down long ago. Also at the Arnold Arboretum on the North facing side, there's a "sea" of them that is absolutely spectacular and they don't receive any special attention. I'll try to take a picture of them and post it on the Wiki. Warm Regards, Fred Biasella Hi, So is one of you who grows Scilla bifolia going to add it to the wiki since it obviously seems to be a plant that has many fans? And how about Scilla mischtschenkoana? We also could make a page for Chinodoxa if people had pictures of it to add? Do people still consider it to be a distinct genus? Do most of these need cold winter temperatures to thrive and summer water? Mary Sue _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@lists.ibiblio.org http://www.pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php