When, where, Hymenocallis, etc.

ConroeJoe@aol.com ConroeJoe@aol.com
Thu, 18 May 2006 15:53:01 PDT
In a message dated 5/18/2006 11:27:24 AM Central Daylight Time, 
pbs-request@lists.ibiblio.org writes:

> when will your new email take hold?  Where did you get
> all these H. liriosme seeds

Hi Cynthia, and Gang,

I collected 2 forms of H. liriosme.  The Conroe, TX form is beautiful and an 
early bloomer.  The first blossom this year was near mid-February.  The plants 
generally grow in wet areas and while there might be late frosts don't seem 
affected--probably because the frosts are mild here and the standing water 
(4-15 inches) keeps freezing temperatures from actually affecting ground level 
plants.  The Conroe form is a smaller plant; it remains smaller when grown in the 
garden.  I think the Conroe plants are doomed.   The only plants I know of 
grow in ditches along county or state highways, highways that are destined to 
become 4-lane in the near future.  I've already seen 2 or 3 acres of habitat 
destroyed, and I presume my own neighborhood ruined many more acres of habitat.  
The boggy areas that H. liriosme enjoys (in nature) are drained, elevated, and 
leveled to make homes, businesses, and highways.  

The second seed type came from near Wallisville, TX.  Wallisville is about 
100 miles from Conroe (by road) and may not experience any frost at all in most 
years.  It is very near the coast and Trinity River estuaries and so it 
estimate it is at least 1/2 climate zone warmer (right next to the Gulf of Mexico, 
whereas Conroe is inland 75-85 miles).  Anyway, the Wallisville plants are 
larger and bloom later.  In my garden the Wallisville flowers open 3-4 weeks after 
I see the first Conroe flowers.  I estimate the real difference is about 2-3 
weeks.  However, I have seen a very few of the Wallisville plants blooming in 
early June; in contrast the Conroe plants finish by early- or mid-April and 
I've never seen them blooming later.  Thus, I suppose that the difference 
between "peak" bloom periods is about 4-5 weeks, but outliers confuse the start 

It is tempting to speculate the 2 forms are different, perhaps species and 
subspecies.  Yet, there is no hard data for such speculation.  I've never found 
a population that blooms as early as the Conroe plants but, perhaps, if I 
extended my observations to north Texas or parts of Louisiana and Arkansas I would 
see that the various differences are part of a single species.  

My new email address (jshaw@opuntiads.com) works now.  However, I have not 
changed all of my various subscriptions and business notifications etc.  It is 
difficult to divorce AOL and it takes time.

By the way, Marcelle Sheppard says, "Say hi to Cynthia and Boone."



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