On 31 Oct 06, at 21:04, John Grimshaw wrote: > The species is normally supposed to have dull, less-well marked > leaves (presumably this is what Diane Whitehead received from > China), so I don't think that Rodger's view that: > > "Don Jacob's Form" = the usual form, the type > is correct. As usual we are straying into muddy waters to assert > that any one variant is the 'type', but if duller leaves are the > norm then "Don Jacobs' Form" is at least distinct from them, if not > from 'Yamazaki'. The form I got from Diane lo, those many years ago, isn't just "dull, less well-marked". It's totally unmarked, with small leaves that I would describe as apple-green. Well, maybe not quite as bright a green as that implies, but definitely a light green. I plead guilty to misusing the word "type" when I should have written "normal", "typical", "usual", "everyday", or perhaps "normative", forgetting in my haste that in the world of plants, "type" has a very specific meaning and it sure isn't a synonym for the typical form. Is this discussion progressing toward a state of total enlightenment on the part of all those concerned with tiny aroids, or are we spinning our wheels over nomenclatural nits? -- Rodger Whitlock Victoria, British Columbia, Canada Maritime Zone 8, a cool Mediterranean climate on beautiful Vancouver Island