>I think that you have the 3. I just have a look and the leaves are exactly >as you described. While withy the other forms the leaves are muych longer >and flattened. The forms are quite distinct Dear Lauw, but all are still considered ssp ciliolata? Thanks Jim W. -- Dr. James W. Waddick 8871 NW Brostrom Rd. Kansas City Missouri 64152-2711 USA Ph. 816-746-1949 Zone 5 Record low -23F Summer 100F +