John: You bring up some interesting questions. Gladiolus dalenii (from wc seed) is completely hardy for us, probably due to our summer heat. G. murielae is marginal here and we will loose it in a cold (below 10 degrees F) winter. Do you have any idea where in the range the material in the trade came from? Low or high elevations? I've often wondered if there couldn't be material found with better winter hardiness. Tony Avent Plant Delights Nursery @ Juniper Level Botanic Garden 9241 Sauls Road Raleigh, North Carolina 27603 USA Minimum Winter Temps 0-5 F Maximum Summer Temps 95-105F USDA Hardiness Zone 7b email tony@plantdelights.com website http://www.plantdelights.com/ phone 919 772-4794 fax 919 772-4752 "I consider every plant hardy until I have killed it myself...at least three times" - Avent > _______________________________________________ > pbs mailing list > pbs@lists.ibiblio.org > http://www.pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php > >