Jim Waddick wrote: "Can't say I have ever seen one here." Count your blessings, Jim: the ones here love Lycoris. Years ago when I was raising Lycoris from seed, the major problem for the very slow growing seedlings was bulb fly predation. Susceptibility seems to vary from species to species of Lycoris. Stocks of large-bulbed forms which are dividing vigorously vegetatively will not run into trouble. Seedlings or comparatively frail species such as L. sanguinea sometimes go down quickly to bulb fly infestation. It has often puzzled me that Lycoris sanquinea, which has been known to be hardy in New England for more than a century, has never become a common garden plant here in the eastern states. Bulb fly might be the answer. Jim McKenney jimmckenney@jimmckenney.com Montgomery County, Maryland, USA, USDA zone 7, where Biarum tenuifolium is starting to bloom. My Virtual Maryland Garden http://www.jimmckenney.com/ BLOG! http://mcwort.blogspot.com/ Webmaster Potomac Valley Chapter, NARGS Editor PVC Bulletin http://www.pvcnargs.org/ Webmaster Potomac Lily Society http://www.potomaclilysociety.org/