pbs Digest, Vol 56, Issue 4 Questionable Lycoris v. aurea with seedhead

Adam Fikso adam14113@ameritech.net
Tue, 04 Sep 2007 09:28:42 PDT
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>   1. Lycoris aurea var. surgens (Adam Fikso)
>  Kelly Irvin wrote:-- 
> I think I will have to contest you here in the general nature of your
> conclusion. I am not defending that Adam has the true Lycoris aurea var.
> surgens. I agree with you in general as to the tender nature of Lycoris
> aurea, and compared to all other species of this genus. I have only
> grown the version you sent me, I believe properly identified as L. aurea

  When I intervened at that temperature, frost had only just started
> developing where leaf blades were bending over. These frost locations
> showed damage after temperatures came back to normal, but the foliage
> stayed erect and in growth.
> I do not believe nature in temperate North America really encourages
> this scenario. Chances are frost will develop at much higher
> temperatures than 13?F, and, chances are, damage will occur wherever the
> frost collects, which is usually on the whole leaf. The experience of
> the above described event, though, should at least lead to a theory that
> under covered protection with a light bulb, even going below 32?F, could
> es; I don't remember the variations if they were
> even known, but these were located in an unheated cabin that had a glass
> covered room and a large flower box or trough for these to grow in.
> Temperatures can reach zero in that neck of the woods. How low in the
> glass covered room? I don't know. Frost collection? I don't know.
> > Has anybody got speculations on the Lycoris shaanxiensis that is being
> marketed these days? Chen Yi is probably the original source for all of
> them. I've been evaluating for several years, unwilling to classify it
> as such. I >

> James Waddick wrote:
>> Dear Adam et al,
>> This is an interesting species. According to the best I can
>> find, this species is endemic to Upper Burma and like all ssp of L.
> ------Well, Thanks to both of you.  I am, right now, convinced that this 
> is probably not the L. aurea from the China-Burma border mentioned by Jim 
> W. (Chen Yi did collect from there at least once, but I've not been able 
> to winter over anything from that area)

I don't know what it is. At this point there is nothing visible, no leaf 
remnants  at the base of the stem, and I don't remember any 2 foot long 

Since the bulb came from you, Kelly, what's your best guess as to ID at this 
point? I did say that there was nothing else blooming when it flowered,  so 
I thought it was self-fertile, butas I think back--there could have been a 
squamigera or two still around when this bloomed  In which case I have a 
triploid x triploid seed pod.  Not impossible, but highly unlikely.  I'd 
still like to know what your advice is regarding trhying to germinate this. 
Let it dry first, or plant it green.?  I do plan to wait until it's fully 
mature and dehiscing before I consider planting it.

It is wait and see at this point, and keep notes where I can find them  in a 

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