When I started working for the seed company K. Sahin, Zaden B.V. in The Netherlands in 1999 there was an old trial bed of seedling Iris labelled "ex Roy Elliott" growing on the famous Sahin trial ground. These were a swarm of hybrids apparently derived from I. bulleyana, I. forrestii etc and many were very attractive, in various colours and shades. None was outstanding enough to be worth naming as a clone, however. I never found out if they were seedlings from a clone or were grown from seed derived from Roy Elliott himself. At that time we used to send seed to the rock garden societies' seed exchanges and I recall on several occasions including Iris ex Roy Elliott in our donations, because I thought that there was potential there to raise some interesting seedlings. This is presumably the source of Jane's friend's seedling, which sounds lovely. Nice to know that something good came out of that seed! John Grimshaw Dr. John M. Grimshaw Sycamore Cottage Colesbourne Cheltenham Gloucestershire GL53 9NP ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jane McGary" <firstname.lastname@example.org> To: "Pacific Bulb Society" <email@example.com> Sent: Monday, December 29, 2008 7:01 PM Subject: [pbs] Iris 'Roy Elliott' > Tucked in a Christmas card, a friend sent me a print of a remarkable > iris she grew from seed from the NARGS Seed Exchange several years > ago. She told me it was on the list as "Iris 'Roy Elliott'", no doubt > at a time when the seed list didn't use "ex" to indicate the seed > parent is a cultivar.