Hi, can I please have an email address for Dylan Hannon Rare Bulbs Regards Milton On 18 Feb 2008 at 14:12, pbs-request@lists.ibiblio.org wrote: From: pbs-request@lists.ibiblio.org Subject: pbs Digest, Vol 61, Issue 12 To: pbs@lists.ibiblio.org Send reply to: pbs@lists.ibiblio.org Date sent: Mon, 18 Feb 2008 14:12:12 -0500 > Send pbs mailing list submissions to > pbs@lists.ibiblio.org > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://www.pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > pbs-request@lists.ibiblio.org > > You can reach the person managing the list at > pbs-owner@lists.ibiblio.org > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of pbs digest..." > > > List-Post:<mailto:pbs@lists.ibiblio.org> > List-Archive:<http://www.pacificbulbsociety.org/pbslist/> > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Tripladenia (lucgbulot@aol.com) > 2. Re: Tripladenia (Arnold Trachtenberg) > 3. Re: Tripladenia (Jim McKenney) > 4. Re: Sprekelia howardii (Douglas Westfall) > 5. Questions concerning Sprekelia howardii (Douglas Westfall) > 6. Re: Sprekelia howardii (Tim Harvey) > 7. Re: Tripladenia (Hannon) > 8. Re: A polar View (M Ashley-Cooper) > 9. Re: Sprekelia (M Ashley-Cooper) > 10. S howardii SNA (B.J.M. Zonneveld) > 11. Re: S howardii SNA (Douglas Westfall) > 12. bounces (piaba) > 13. Change my e-mail address (Roy Sachs) > 14. Re: bounces (Kenneth Hixson) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Sun, 17 Feb 2008 16:52:00 -0500 > From: lucgbulot@aol.com > Subject: [pbs] Tripladenia > To: pbs@lists.ibiblio.org > Message-ID: <8CA3FC6754AAF34-1708-6EF@FRR1-L19.sis.aol.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > Hi all, > > Many thanks to all who contributed to answer my former questions... Here is another one... > > Loooking at the APG 2 web pages today to see the updates to the phylogenetic classification of Liliales, I noticed among the Colchicaceae the genus Triplandenia. None of the database I usualy use seems to know that genus (mobot.org, ipni.org). > > Anybody as a clue about whoe are the author(s) of the genus and its content ? > > Thanks in advance, > > Luc > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Sun, 17 Feb 2008 17:12:55 -0500 > From: Arnold Trachtenberg <arnold@nj.rr.com> > Subject: Re: [pbs] Tripladenia > To: Pacific Bulb Society <pbs@lists.ibiblio.org> > Message-ID: <47B8B167.70409@nj.rr.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed > > Luc: > > From Kubitzki " The Families and Genera of Vascular", Vol. III > Flowering Plants Monocotyledons > > Tripladenia D. Don, Proc. Linn. Soc. Lond. 1: 46 (1839); Clifford and > Conran, Fl. Australia 45; 416 (1987) > > "Erect herb with a knotty scaly rhizome. Leaves distichous, > ovate-lanceolate, with half clasping cordate base. > Flowers pedicellate, solitary or few together in axillary pedunculate > cymes. Perianth pink or mauve; tepals discrete, basally with stalked > nectariferous glands. Anthers extrorse. Style simple below, 3 branched > above. Capsule loculicidal, pyriform-rounded, somewhat fleshy; seeds > globose, strophiolate. 2n = 14. Only one species T. cunninghamii D. > Don, confined to rain forest and wet sclerophyll forest of eastern > Australia. ( Previously often confused with Schelhammera multiflora, q.v.) > > Arnold > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Sun, 17 Feb 2008 17:16:05 -0500 > From: "Jim McKenney" <jimmckenney@jimmckenney.com> > Subject: Re: [pbs] Tripladenia > To: "'Pacific Bulb Society'" <pbs@lists.ibiblio.org> > Message-ID: <000b01c871b2$b1547a00$2f01a8c0@Library> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > A quick Google search shows that it is a monotypic genus from Australia, > placed variously in the Convallariaceae, Colchicaceae, or Uvulariaceae. The > one species is T. cunninghamii. One local name is bush lily. One map I saw > seemed to show a widely disjunct distribution: one population in far > northern Australia and another larger area of distribution in eastern > Australia. There are images on the web - just Google a bit. > > When you search, check your spelling. In your subject line you used > Tripladenia, in the body of your message you used Triplandenia. Tripladenia > is in ipni. > > > Jim McKenney > jimmckenney@jimmckenney.com > Montgomery County, Maryland, USA, USDA zone 7, where the first winter > aconites have finally opened. > My Virtual Maryland Garden http://www.jimmckenney.com/ > BLOG! http://mcwort.blogspot.com/ > > Webmaster Potomac Valley Chapter, NARGS > Editor PVC Bulletin http://www.pvcnargs.org/ > > Webmaster Potomac Lily Society http://www.potomaclilysociety.org/ > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Sun, 17 Feb 2008 14:24:34 -0800 > From: Douglas Westfall <eagle85@flash.net> > Subject: Re: [pbs] Sprekelia howardii > To: Pacific Bulb Society <pbs@lists.ibiblio.org> > Message-ID: <B5F6BB89-41E1-440B-826D-3F08BD610195@flash.net> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes > > "Thanks Doug, > I've done the same thing myself, but in the case where some > characteristics are strongly dominant, I'm keen to try and find a way > to determine that the plants really did self. > > I guess karyotyping would be one option." > > I guess that we must await some "scientific research and/or the > maturity of our seedlings. > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 5 > Date: Sun, 17 Feb 2008 14:52:02 -0800 > From: Douglas Westfall <eagle85@flash.net> > Subject: [pbs] Questions concerning Sprekelia howardii > To: IBSMEMBERS@yahoogroups.com, Pacific Bulb Society > <pbs@lists.ibiblio.org> > Message-ID: <DEF9A24B-678B-4DF2-8621-B735209B240D@flash.net> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes > > With the comments being a little "lopsided" in favor of those who > question the process of microwaving pollen to encourage bulbs which > tend to be "self sterile", I am reminded of another "discussion" > several years ago when I was questioned about a miniature Scadoxus > puniceus in my collection. I was told that there is no such Scadoxus > in the literature and thus, I must be "wrong" or mistaken. > > Well, I now have three clones of the "miniature" Scadoxus, and Dr > Koopowitz has two clones. I was never "shaken" by the "nay-sayers", > and now I know that I was/am right. > > There were those who questioned my Scadoxus puniceus alba. Now there > are those out there who have them. > > I also have a variegated Veltheimia bracteata lemon flame. I have been > admonished that it is just "badly virused". It is now eight years in > my garden with NO virus spread, many seedlings all variegated with NO > throwbacks, and it is just a beautiful as ever. > > In a year or two, I hope to have another "new" bulb that will be > questioned. Well, seeing is believing. The Creator's variety of types > and forms is beyond my comprehension!!! > > Not "doubting" Doug > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 6 > Date: Sun, 17 Feb 2008 15:10:50 -0800 > From: Tim Harvey <zigur@hotmail.com> > Subject: Re: [pbs] Sprekelia howardii > To: Pacific Bulb Society <pbs@lists.ibiblio.org> > Message-ID: <BAY110-W30C1D584022E5575B6B619BC200@phx.gbl> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > > It may take longer than that. > > Apparently some species of Aloe (not a bulb, sorry!) are so dominant in hybrids it is not possible to tell plants are actually hybrids by visual inspection of form or flowers. > > When said plants are crossed within the F1 group, the subsequent variation in the progeny indicates the parents were themselves hybrids. > > T> From: eagle85@flash.net> To: pbs@lists.ibiblio.org> Date: Sun, 17 Feb 2008 14:24:34 -0800> Subject: Re: [pbs] Sprekelia howardii> > "Thanks Doug,> I've done the same thing myself, but in the case where some > characteristics are strongly dominant, I'm keen to try and find a way > to determine that the plants really did self.> > I guess karyotyping would be one option."> > I guess that we must await some "scientific research and/or the > maturity of our seedlings.> _______________________________________________> pbs mailing list> pbs@lists.ibiblio.org> http://www.pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php> http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki/ > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 7 > Date: Sun, 17 Feb 2008 20:04:13 -0800 > From: Hannon <othonna@gmail.com> > Subject: Re: [pbs] Tripladenia > To: "Pacific Bulb Society" <pbs@lists.ibiblio.org> > Message-ID: > <8e8da5260802172004r720db4f5v189c0c3fe12ae392@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > > Luc, > I have found this to be a somewhat recalcitrant species in that it is slow > and never demonstrates real vigor. I grow two different clones. Have not > tried it outdoors yet but am growing it as a warm tropical subject in plenty > of shade. I can't recall having flowered it. Outdoor cultivation (Los > Angeles) might prove helpful. > > A better plant in my experience, also in the Convallariaceae, that comes > from the same part of the world and recalls Tripladenia in overall aspect is > Schelhammera multiflora. It produces starry white flowers on a bushy plant > that has more vigor and is also rather slow. The new leaves are > bronze-tinted. Unfortunately I lost it some years ago. > > I would exhort all members to keep an eye out for other plants in this > family that remain obscure but are very worthy of cultivation, such as > species of Tupistra, Gonioscypha and Peliosanthes. They are really not > geophytes but evergreen perennials. > > Dylan > > On Feb 17, 2008 1:52 PM, <lucgbulot@aol.com> wrote: > > > Hi all, > > > > Many thanks to all who contributed to answer my former questions... Here > > is another one... > > > > Loooking at the APG 2 web pages today to see the updates to the > > phylogenetic classification of Liliales, I noticed among the Colchicaceae > > the genus Triplandenia. None of the database I usualy use seems to know that > > genus (mobot.org, ipni.org). > > > > Anybody as a clue about whoe are the author(s) of the genus and its > > content ? > > > > Thanks in advance, > > > > Luc > > _______________________________________________ > > pbs mailing list > > pbs@lists.ibiblio.org > > http://www.pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php > > http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki/ > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 8 > Date: Sat, 16 Feb 2008 09:41:06 -0500 > From: "M Ashley-Cooper" <m.ashley.cooper@comcast.net> > Subject: Re: [pbs] A polar View > To: "Pacific Bulb Society" <pbs@lists.ibiblio.org> > Message-ID: <002001c870a9$fa2e4760$1266cb47@mykecbcb148b69> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > As an ex-Capetonian, the thought of living further north than Florida fills me with horror as I could never grow any of my favorite bulbs or vines! It's been bad enough having ice on 2 mornings here in Tallahassee since we arrived in November! > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: David Ryle > To: Pacific Bulb Society > Sent: Saturday, February 16, 2008 8:52 AM > Subject: Re: [pbs] A polar View > > > Greetings all, > With all due respect, anyone living in Maryland should only utter the word "Polar" in no more than a sibilant whisper. > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 9 > Date: Sat, 16 Feb 2008 20:05:11 -0500 > From: "M Ashley-Cooper" <m.ashley.cooper@comcast.net> > Subject: Re: [pbs] Sprekelia > To: "Pacific Bulb Society" <pbs@lists.ibiblio.org> > Message-ID: <011201c87101$41714f30$1266cb47@mykecbcb148b69> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > Website? > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Hannon > To: Pacific Bulb Society > Sent: Saturday, February 16, 2008 7:24 PM > Subject: Re: [pbs] Sprekelia > > > I have listed this species in my 2008 summer bulb list. They are sturdy > seedlings several years old. Requests for this list are welcome (US orders > only), please send a private request to me at othonna<at>gmail<dot>com. Also > on this list are rare species of Dandya, Hymenocallis, Rauhia and > Stenomesson, most with locality information. A winter grower list is also > available but these will not be shipped until June of this year. > I find S. howardii easy to grow here outdoors in Los Angeles so long as it > is kept out of winter rains. It starts growth in early summer and finishes > in late fall so do not expect spring activity-- as with geophytes from the > monsoon climate areas of Mexico generally. Its hysteranthous habit (flowers > appearing above bare soil before the leaves) is very appealing and the > flowers are large compared to the plant overall and blood red. Bulbs are > more like Rhodophiala or Zephyranthes in being subterranean with a long > neck; foliage is also distinct from S. formosissima in being uniformly > narrower, darker and with some red tinting. S. howardii grows in hot dry > canyons at lower elevations than S. formosissima. > > It is a fine species, recognized decades ago by Thad as distinctive, and I > am pleased to be able to offer it. > > Dylan > Dylan Hannon Rare Bulbs > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 10 > Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2008 14:19:17 +0100 > From: "B.J.M. Zonneveld" <B.J.M.Zonneveld@biology.leidenuniv.nl> > Subject: [pbs] S howardii SNA > To: <pbs@lists.ibiblio.org> > Message-ID: > <8E19E8A2233ED74D8483ACF3FBB3603B016DC6E8@iblmail.ibl.leidenuniv.nl> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > Hi Doug > There is a difference in nuclear DNA content between S howardii > (diploid, as tested from J Shields plant) and S formossisima (tetraploid > and hexaploid) So just send me a fresh leaf of both the parent and the > seedling and I will tell you wether or not you seedlings are true or > hybrids > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 11 > Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2008 09:41:55 -0800 > From: Douglas Westfall <eagle85@flash.net> > Subject: Re: [pbs] S howardii SNA > To: Pacific Bulb Society <pbs@lists.ibiblio.org> > Message-ID: <4F20051F-3470-43E0-A4B5-C954AE71D624@flash.net> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes > > Dr. Zonneveld, > > What a generous offer! Please send your mailing address, and I'll > send it right away. > > With kind regards, > > Doug > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 12 > Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2008 10:04:10 -0800 (PST) > From: piaba <piabinha@yahoo.com> > Subject: [pbs] bounces > To: pbs@lists.ibiblio.org > Message-ID: <660947.56433.qm@web51911.mail.re2.yahoo.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 > > hmmm... i don't know what to do. why am i getting > bounced from this list regularly? i'm not the one > writing about naked ladies!!!! > > > --- pbs-request@lists.ibiblio.org wrote: > > Your membership in the mailing list pbs has been > > disabled due to > > excessive bounces The last bounce received from you > > was dated > > 17-Feb-2008. You will not get any more messages > > from this list until > > you re-enable your membership. 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Search. http://tools.search.yahoo.com/newsearch/… > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 14 > Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2008 11:12:04 -0800 > From: Kenneth Hixson <khixson@nu-world.com> > Subject: Re: [pbs] bounces > To: Pacific Bulb Society <pbs@lists.ibiblio.org> > Message-ID: <47B9D884.6040101@nu-world.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed > > piaba wrote: > > hmmm... i don't know what to do. why am i getting > > bounced from this list regularly? i'm not the one > > writing about naked ladies!!!! > > "Bouncing" isn't anything to do with censorship-- > your ISP provides a certain amount of computer storage > space for each account, and after that amount is filled, > the ISP's computer automatically refuses to accept more > messages--incoming mail is "bounced", meaning returned > to the sending computer. In effect, your ISP says "there > isn't room for any more messages". The sending computer > will automatically resend the message after a certain number > of hours, and will do so a certain number of times, which > can be adjusted by the administrators. Once the set numbers > are exceeded, the account is inactivated and the sending > computer no longer tries to send to that address. > > If you've received a lot of email you haven't > downloaded from your ISP--even one large JPG file for > instance, incoming mail may be "bounced". Empty your > email account at your ISP, then notify the sending computer-- > in this case pbs. If the problem doesn't clear up, try > re-establishing the account. Sometimes things on computers > get corrupted-just one 1 becoming a 0 will do it. > > If you can't empty your account regularly, you can > also arrange with your ISP to get more storage for your > email account--usually at extra cost. > > Ken > > > ------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > pbs mailing list > pbs@lists.ibiblio.org > http://www.pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php > > > End of pbs Digest, Vol 61, Issue 12 > *********************************** >