At 10:20 AM 5/06/2008, you wrote: >Thanks for noting that this used to be Ornithogalum dubium. Interestingly >enough, with the name change my bulb disappeared. Perhaps it resented being >lumped! > Shirley Meneice Shirley, Ornithogalum dubium has not changed name to Notholirion thomsonianum, they're two totally things. The subject line was changed to reflect that the new message was focusing on the part of the original message that referred to the Notholirion (i.e the 'et al' bit of the message), not that the name of the plant itself had changed. So unfortunately you can't blame the "name change" on your bulb disappearing. <grin> I too am another of those that has the Noth. that never flowers. Mine are in pots, prolific offsetter but never flowerer. Been meaning to put it into the garden for a few years but never remember to find the pot of leaves and plant it out. When dormant I never remember where it is, and when not dormant the pot of leaves gets lost amongst everything else. One day when it is meant to go into the ground I'll come across it and plant it out. LOL One day!! I saw it in flower somewhere a couple of years ago and it is rather pretty, so I really should make that "one day" sometime sooner rather than later. Cheers. Paul T. Canberra, Australia - USDA Zone Equivalent approx. 8/9 Growing an eclectic collection of plants from all over the world including Aroids, Crocus, Cyclamen, Erythroniums, Fritillarias, Galanthus, Irises, Trilliums (to name but a few) and just about anything else that doesn't move!!