As requested privately. I never or almost never seek out a website listed on PBS and I never buy plants because as a rule these are offered for sale in North America and the hoops to jump to facilitate importation are rarely worth the trouble, I also believe it works the other way too. In addition, with very few exceptions as a rule I only grow plants from seed almost all of which must have provenance details and it seems I work on interests which are marginally shared by most posters however I have no way of knowing if that is the case. All of that said however, it is a marvellous site for the exchange of information and to encourage new and novice gardeners who badly need a steer and encouragement from time to time which seems to be willingly given by so many generous people. We simply do not have an analogue here in Europe, so all power to your elbow[s]. The benefits which I receive as an outsider are being able to learn and observe what are the interests and concerns amongst other English speaking people who generally live a VERY LONG WAY AWAY from this tiny country of mine which in its day was home to so many of your member's ancestors. Iain -- I am using the free version of SPAMfighter. We are a community of 5.9 million users fighting spam. SPAMfighter has removed 44146 of my spam emails to date. Get the free SPAMfighter here: http://www.spamfighter.com/len/ The Professional version does not have this message