I see a lot of interest from our eastern North American members in Lycoris, but I have never been able to keep it here in the Cascade foothills, for which I blame cool summer nights. However, yesterday I went to a party at a great garden, that of Norm Kalbfleisch and Neil Matteuci, that is less than a mile from my new house, and they had huge clumps of Crinum in flower. Am I correct in thinking that if you can grow Crinum well, you have a chance with Lycoris? If there is a similarity in their requirements, I might try Lycoris again -- though I don't think I want to use the space for Crinum. Jane McGary Northwestern Oregon, USA