Ismene seedling -- is this the ture narcissiflora?

Adam Fikso
Sun, 15 Aug 2010 12:26:50 PDT
Re the  answers to Dave Ehrlich's question--  How can one tell?  How does 
one make the distinction necessary?  from a photograph.  Length of tepals" 
curvature  quality?

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Jim McKenney" <>
To: "'Pacific Bulb Society'" <>
Sent: Sunday, August 15, 2010 10:41 AM
Subject: Re: [pbs] Ismene seedling -- is this the ture narcissiflora?

David Ehrlich asked " this the ture narcissiflora?"

No, David, your parent plant is one of the plants known as x festalis, an
old hybrid between narcissiflora and longiflora. At least two clones of x
festalis are in commerce, maybe more. One, a big robust one, is called

Hymenocallis longipetala is also known as Elisena longipetala.

Also, I'm not sure those big green marbles are true seeds. I'm pretty sure
they are a form of asexual reproduction seen in other amaryllids, too (such
as Crinum).

However, many amaryllids evidently produce nothing but these big soft
"seeds". I'm not sure what to make of them. I would like to hear what the
other amaryllid enthusiasts say about them.

Amaryllid experts, speak up please!

-----Original Message-----
From: []
On Behalf Of David Ehrlich
Sent: Saturday, August 14, 2010 10:10 PM
To: Pacific Bulb Society
Subject: [pbs] Ismene seedling -- is this the ture narcissiflora?

Some years ago I purchased a bulb or bulbs of Hymenocallis or Ismene
calathina or narcissiflora at a big box store. I also bought a Sulphur
and put them in the same pot. After the first year or two, the Sulphur
ceased existing, but the white-flowered plant continues to increase. Today
have 9 scapes, 5 of which are already in bloom. I don't know whether I have
true Ismene narcissiflora or not, but my plant is fertile and produces a few
inch green immies (spheres) every year. I'm still learning how to raise the

seedlings. I have been growing a seedling from one of last year's seeds for

about 2 months. I planted the seed just below the soil last September or
October, and left it outside during our very wet winter. The cotyledon
above ground around mid-June. It already has two stems (it could be that
second stem is from a second seed, but I did not plant them that close
The parent plant stands about 3½' tall, leaves are 2' x 2".

 You are invited to view David's photo album: Ismene seedling
  Ismene seedlingAug 14, 2010
by David
This is my seedling. The parent may be Ismene narcissiflora -- it's a bulb
bulbs that I've had for years.

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Message from David:
My several year old Ismene, which I purchased at a big box store as
or narcissiflora regularly produces a few 3/4" green seeds which I am
how to raise. After the photo of the parent flower I have photos of the
seedling. It is now about 2 months old, either has 2 stems or a second seed
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