Pancratium maritimum

gentiaan bulborum bulborum@gmail.com
Mon, 08 Mar 2010 23:16:23 PST
P.illiricum is not growing near the sea and is more free-flowering
as P. maritimum and does not neat the salty air.
from seeds it takes normally 6/7 years
p.maritimum need salted air to produce flowers
or a few times a year some spray of salt water
like Narcissus serotinus and other plants near the sea
I am sure the 21 bulbs are an other plant because they don't fit in
a 5 gallon pot the bulbs are simply to large
or you bought planting size bulbs not flowering size

Roland
bulborum@gmail.com



2010/3/9 Adam Fikso <adam14113@ameritech.net>

> OK, Jim. "Close"  for me and for you are different animals, I was using the
> word quite loosely. I agree with you, having read the abstract of Alan
> Meerow.  It's closer than canna, or iris, though.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "J.E. Shields" <jshields@indy.net>
> To: "Pacific Bulb Society" <pbs@lists.ibiblio.org>
> Sent: Monday, March 08, 2010 5:36 PM
> Subject: Re: [pbs] Pancratium maritimum
>
>
> Hi Adam and all,
>
> Adam, I hate to burst your bubble, but Pancratium and Hymenocallis are not
> particularly closely related.
>
> Hymenocallis is in the American Clade of Amaryllidaceae, related more
> closely to Hippeastrum, Ismene, and Griffinia than to Pancratium.
>
> Pancratium is in the Eurasian Clade, most closely related (by DNA) to
> Sternbergia and more closely related to Narcissus, Lycoris, and  Galanthus
> than to any American amaryllid.
>
> Be prepared to use in vitro embryo rescue to grow any seeds resulting from
> crossing Hymenocallis and Pancratium.  Or at least don't say I didn't warn
> you!
>
> A DNA Phylogenetic Tree is on my web site at
> http://shieldsgardens.com/amaryllids/…
> adapted from Alan Meerow's 1999 paper.
>
> Best regards,
> Jim Shields
>
>
> At 05:15 PM 3/8/2010 -0600, you wrote:
> >Pancratium and Hymenocallis are closely allied even though they are  very
> >different in terms of growing requirements and tolerances.  It's what
> >fascinates me about the prospect of a hybrid between P. maritimum and H.
> >occidentalis which (the latter) I gow here in my 5a gardenn with basically
> >minimal  protection.  Has tolerated 2 years of a dip to - 5° (2 nights
> each
> >year.)
>
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