Banana leaf canna nomenclature question

Tony Avent
Mon, 01 Nov 2010 08:24:12 PDT

We published Canna 'Musafolia' as a cultivar in our 2000 catalog.  If
someone published it before then, I'll be glad to defer. 

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-----Original Message-----
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On Behalf Of Jim McKenney
Sent: Monday, November 01, 2010 10:35 AM
To: 'Pacific Bulb Society'
Subject: Re: [pbs] Banana leaf canna nomenclature question

Thanks, Chris.


Now let’s ask the same question from a different point of view.


A check of IPNI suggests that Canna musifolia was not validly published
under the ICBN. Also, the paper “The Cannaceae of the World”  by 

H. Maas-Van De Kamer & P.J.M. Maas  in  BLUMEA 53: 247–318 Published on 29
October 2008 (thank you Alani)  lists Canna musifolia (and its orthographic
variants) as a “nomen  subnudum”. 


[For those of you trying to follow this, a nomen nudum is a name published
without  description. The term “nomen subnudum” (evidently an unofficial
term)  is sometimes used to describe names which are not quite a nomen
nudum, but otherwise not adequately described.] 


Chris, you framed your response in terms of names published under the ICBN.
If the name is not validly published under the ICBN, doesn’t that change


For purposes of discussion, let’s say Canna musaefolia was not published
validly under the ICBN. In that case, would  the spelling musaefolia be
available for a cultivar name?  


Jim McKenney

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