After nearly two months of horrible email service by my Internet service provider, I think the problems are under control and so I've had a little bit of time to glance through some of the conversations I haven't been able to follow very well. I grow Lapageria in the inland southern Calif. valleys, so it gets hot during the day during the summertime. However, it always cools off at night down to at least the low 60s (°F) or even into the mid-50s (°F). So I think that helps mine withstand the heat. Otherwise, they grow quite well, although they don't flower as profusely as I'd wish. I think that might be because I grow them in pots that are too small for them (5 gal. for the large plant and 1 gal's for the small plants). I do grow them on the east side of my house (under shade cloth during the summer) so that probably helps as well. Also our climate may be drier than Jim W's, but I don't know for sure. I water them all year round. What I think they would really appreciate however, is to have cool roots, even if the air gets hot. So I really want to get them into the ground, on the east side of the house some day. They're perfectly hardy here, so I don't know how much below freezing weather they can tolerate. I'd love love love to get some of the other colors and combinations of colors. I hear that the Berkeley Bot. Gardens offers them from time to time, but it's a 6 hour drive... ;-) And yes, Jim McK, I also grow Philesia magellanica, near where I grow my Lapageria, but I never give it direct sun. I have mine in a 2 gal. pot and it has basically filled the pot. I had heard that it needs even cooler growing conditions than Lapageria, but mine has been doing great and started flowering last year for the first time, and is flowering again this year. It's a small bush looking plant (about 40-50 cm tall) and the flowers look exactly like Lapageria flowers only smaller and dangling from various branches among the Philesia bush instead of hanging from a vine. Are there other colors of it besides the rosy red, like for Lapageria? I also think it wants cool growing roots, so I keep mine on a slab of concrete that stays cooler than the air during the summer. --Lee Poulsen Pasadena, California, USA - USDA Zone 10a On Sep 17, 2010, at 1:46 PM, Jim McKenney wrote: > Are any of you Lapageria enthusiasts also growing Philesia magellanica